How do you SFH/townhouse househackers manage to secure your second property??

How do you SFH/townhouse househackers manage to secure your second property??

Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes

After living in my househack for about a year, I am currently looking to purchase househack #2 and move into that one.  However, financing has been much harder this time around because banks cant seem to recognize the "rent-by-the-room" strategy when evaluating my debt/income.  More specifically, I am currently bringing in $3750/mo in rental income (mortgage payment is $3300 so I am more than in the clear).  I plan to continue renting by the room in my 4br house, so I expect this income to jump up to around $5000/month after including my own room (I live in a HCOL area).

The problem is banks cant seem to recognize this strategy and count that income as income towards my liabilities.  They only recognize rental income as an entire property.  So even though I am easily bringing in $5k/month with my rent-by-the-room strategy, banks/lenders can only count about $3000-3300 since thats the average rent for an entire house in my area.  This greatly hurts my financing and has made it so that I can't "afford" most of the houses in my area even though in actuality I more than can.  Even my lender understands and recognizes my situation but they are held back by strict underwriting policies.

So my question is, how did you guys do it?  Whats the best strategy with this situation?

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Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
3y

I don't know if there's a way around that on financing. Can you work more to make up for the difference? You need more income to offset the debt you have. Is there any debt you can pay off to help too? Room by room is a great strategy but for underwriters they take the long term rent of a property. 

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  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    I don't know if there's a way around that on financing. Can you work more to make up for the difference? You need more income to offset the debt you have. Is there any debt you can pay off to help too? Room by room is a great strategy but for underwriters they take the long term rent of a property. 

  • Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    3y
  • Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Caleb Brown:

    I don't know if there's a way around that on financing. Can you work more to make up for the difference? You need more income to offset the debt you have. Is there any debt you can pay off to help too? Room by room is a great strategy but for underwriters they take the long term rent of a property. 

    I make a decent income well into the 6-figs, but unfortunately houses here are also crazy expensive. A decent SFH ranges from $600k-750k. I also dont really have any debt besides a small amount of paused student loan debt.
  • Ryan ThomsonBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    @Joseph Wobus if you have been declaring this income on your tax returns you should be able to use that instead of rental leases. 

    Another option is to get them all on one lease and have the other tenants pay the main person on the lease. 

    Reach out if you have more questions. 

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  • Member since 2022 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Ryan Thomson:

    @Joseph Wobus if you have been declaring this income on your tax returns you should be able to use that instead of rental leases. 

    Another option is to get them all on one lease and have the other tenants pay the main person on the lease. 

    Reach out if you have more questions. 

    I have been declaring it as income, yes.  I havnt heard of this strategy but ill be sure to talk to my lender about this.  

    Also, the second option won't work (at least with the lender Im working with) since they require a rental appraisal and that evaluates it based on the market rent value.  So even if I am bringing in significantly more than market value and combine it into a single lease, they can only go with the conservative appraisal estimate which is 3k-3.3k.

  • Ryan ThomsonBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Joseph Wobus:
    Quote from @Ryan Thomson:

    @Joseph Wobus if you have been declaring this income on your tax returns you should be able to use that instead of rental leases. 

    Another option is to get them all on one lease and have the other tenants pay the main person on the lease. 

    Reach out if you have more questions. 

    I have been declaring it as income, yes.  I havnt heard of this strategy but ill be sure to talk to my lender about this.  

    Also, the second option won't work (at least with the lender Im working with) since they require a rental appraisal and that evaluates it based on the market rent value.  So even if I am bringing in significantly more than market value and combine it into a single lease, they can only go with the conservative appraisal estimate which is 3k-3.3k.


     Well the 3.3k would be way better than $0 in rental income right? That will go a long way in helping you qualify for the next one.

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