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Updated about 1 year ago, 09/02/2023

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Michael Poloncic
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Property management you recommend

Michael Poloncic
  • Investor
  • Utah
Posted

Who do you recommend as a good property management company (some one who is NARPM. National Association of Residential Property Managers) for a single family home in the Seagoville/Dallas Texas area? Thank you.

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Lucia Rushton
  • Realtor
  • Dallas - Fort Worth Metroplex, Tx
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Lucia Rushton
  • Realtor
  • Dallas - Fort Worth Metroplex, Tx
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@Heather Phildius is here in DFW and can assist you. 

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Michael Poloncic
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Michael Poloncic
  • Investor
  • Utah
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Quote from @Lucia Rushton:

@Heather Phildius is here in DFW and can assist you. 

Awesome, what’s the company she’s with? 
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Michael Smythe
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Michael Smythe
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  • Property Manager
  • Metro Detroit
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@Michael Poloncic

Encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.

To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.

Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!

Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊

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Michael Poloncic
  • Investor
  • Utah
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Michael Poloncic
  • Investor
  • Utah
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Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Michael Poloncic

Encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.

To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.

Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!

Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊


 Thank you Michael! That is very insightful. I appreciate the advise as we move forward! 

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Lucia Rushton
  • Realtor
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Lucia Rushton
  • Realtor
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Quote from @Michael Poloncic:
Quote from @Lucia Rushton:

@Heather Phildius is here in DFW and can assist you. 

Awesome, what’s the company she’s with? 

 

McCaw Property management. @Kyle Mccaw is an active investor and member of BP


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Heather Phildius
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  • Keller, TX
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Heather Phildius
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  • Realtor
  • Keller, TX
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@Lucia Rushton Thanks!

  • Heather Phildius
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    Manco Snead
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    Manco Snead
    • Investor
    • Spokane, WA
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    None of them. How much work would you put into a stranger's property for a few hundred $/month? There is no incentive unless you have many properties they are managing, then they stand to lose something. I've used 4 different PMs over the years and none of them have met my standards. If you are an organized type person you will likely feel the same. Mange your own properties if possible. If you've never done it, once you get past the learning curve and get a system in place it's easy.

    Oh yeah, and my general rule is trust nobody in the real estate business.