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Updated about 7 years ago on . Most recent reply

In need of a mentor House Flipping
So I'm finally taking this a little more seriously and I've hooked up with a contractor and his wife who happens to be a real estate agent.
I have no experience. Period.
He has been in construction for 15 years, has read all the books, knows what to look for and figure out comps, how much it will cost to repair. etc. etc. etc. But he has never flipped houses before, but he's eager.
In this scenario, I will be the bank, he is the project manager. We're in the midst of creating a Joint Venture Agreement.
Being that we are both newbies, I am hoping I can find an experienced mentor that can hold my hand through this process. Although, we haven't nailed down a property, we are very close.
Thanks much.
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Carol Hensal Many Investors that flip homes use the 70% Rule that says 0.7 x ARV - Repairs = Your Maximum Allowable Offer (MAO). What hurts Investors that use this formula is it does not account for Holding Costs, Backend Selling Costs, etc.
I use the following formula to determine my Maximum Allowable Offer (MAO). This formula is the Profit Margin Formula that accounts, for 99.99%, of everything.
ARV – Desired Profit – Closing Costs to Buy – Repairs – 10% of Repairs – Holdings Costs – Concessions – Realtor Fees – Closing Costs to Sell = Your Offer (MAO or Maximum Allowable Offer).
ARV: After repaired value or what you think it will sell for once repaired.
Desired Profit: This should be taken off the top first. Most people run their numbers to determine what their profit should be. That is backwards, you should use your profit to determine what your offer should be. As a General Rule, my Desired Profit is $20,000 or 20% of ARV whichever is greater. To have an offer accepted, one may need to adjust their Desired Profit; however, it should not be below $20,000, or what one feels is acceptable.
Closing Costs to Buy: What is it going to cost you to buy the property? If you are using hard money you need to budget for the points and fees as well as traditional third party closing fees.
Repairs: The money it is going to take you to rehab the property plus an extra 10% of estimated repair costs to account for unexpected repairs.
Holdings Costs: Here is where a lot of investors get tripped up. Start by determining an amount of time that you will hold the property, probably 4-6 months. Then add ALL costs related to holding the property (utility costs, insurance premiums, property taxes, loan payments, etc.).
Concessions: Concessions are what you give back to the buyer at closing. It could be for closing costs, unfinished repairs or something else. I typically subtract 3%, of the ARV.
Realtor Fees: What is the commission you are willing to pay your listing agent (unless you are the listing agent) and the buyer's agent. Utilize 6% of ARV.
Closing Costs to Sell: Title fees and other closing costs. You can budget around 4% of the sale price to cover these.
This is a conservative formula. If you come out ahead without Buyer Concessions, on budget, etc., this puts more money in your pocket, when you close at selling.
If you find value, in my two posts, and feel I may be an asset, to your Flipping Endeavors, please feel free to reach out to me. I am a Rehabber as well as a Buy and Hold Investor.