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Shane Clark
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Best People Finder Programs for phone numbers

Shane Clark
  • Commercial Real Estate Agent
  • Sacramento, CA
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I am building a farm list and have just over a thousand names and addresses I have pulled from title reports and 3rd party sources such as Property Radar.  I have been looking up phone numbers using online White Pages and Spokeo.  So far I have had about a 50% success rate of finding correct numbers.  Does anyone have other recommendations for People Finder sites to find phone numbers and/or e-mail addresses? 

Thank you!

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Shane Woods
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Shane Woods
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I don't use the pay services that will track cell phones, but I do use whitepages.com, radaris.com (but I think they just changed to an everything costs money thing, yp.com whitepages to find land-lines or "listed" cell phones.  I don't know what my percentage is because I use it more for alternate addresses than phone numbers.  But I have had some luck looking for phone numbers through the free services.  

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Shane Clark
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Shane Clark
  • Commercial Real Estate Agent
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Thanks Shane, I'll give those sites a shot! 

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Lexie M.
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thatsthem.com is relatively new and free. What I liked about this site is that it has a lot of cell phone numbers instead of outdated landlines. 

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Shane Clark
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Thanks Lexie, I will give that site a try! 

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David Dey
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David Dey
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Originally posted by @Shane Clark:

I am building a farm list and have just over a thousand names and addresses I have pulled from title reports and 3rd party sources such as Property Radar.  I have been looking up phone numbers using online White Pages and Spokeo.  So far I have had about a 50% success rate of finding correct numbers.  Does anyone have other recommendations for People Finder sites to find phone numbers and/or e-mail addresses? 

Thank you!

Disclosure: I apologize for being redundant but I am not sure how to point you to a post I wrote which gave answers to your question,  therefore I have copied the post and am pasting it here.

Small 1446172649 avatar davidd80
Finding phone numbers is actually pretty easy now days. In this age of Internet and public records and ease of access, It's very difficult to stay off the radar.

Everybody leaves a digital footprint somewhere.

Here are some basic tools I use to find people.

Free first:

Whitepages/anywho/zabasearch/

Google is the most underrated tool to finding a person. Starting with their name and hopefully city or at least state. You can find out pieces of the puzzle that make it easier to locate the person.

Ex: if they are a professional of some sort, i.e. Doctor, lawyer, now you have areas you can find them. If they are a part of a forum, it pops up.

I once pulled up a person that was a on a site for classic cars that posted a request for parts along with his phone number. (Bought the house and made a 20k flip profit)

Public records are amazing: if you locate the area where the seller lives, make sure you look them up in their counties property appraiser, and clerk of court/register of deeds.

Examples of places you can find them:

If they pulled a permit on a house the notice of commencement may include their phone number.

If they were in a lawsuit and represented themselves, most forms will include a phone number.

If they were a landlord and did an eviction, the 3 day notice or complaint will usually have their phone number.

There are quite a few areas the info will show up in public records.

Social media is the hands down best way to locate people.

I have found more people through Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn then I can tell you.

My favorite example is where I located the owner of an abandoned home on Facebook. I had tried every tool I had available to me prior including free and paid services. Including high end skip trace tools. I had found out she had a daughter but couldn't find her either. Then I tried Facebook. Her daughter popped right up showing that she worked at the local Applebee's as a bartender. And on her page her most recent post was a request by her to her fb friends requesting a ride to work. And in the response was.... Wait for it... Her mom apologized for not being able to pick her up as she was heading into work right then. (Thank you oversharers) a quick click over to moms fb page revealed that she worked as a waitress at the crackerbarrel next door.

One of our bird dogs actually went over there and talked to her, set up an appt and we ended up buying the house for $600.

Cheap next:

Ussearch is a cheap skip trace tool that costs about $49 for a 3 month unlimited use service. There is a lot of junk in to sift through but many times you get lucky. The best tool in there is their direct link to social media.

More costly but worth it:

We have access to a service called tracers that, for .50 per pull, gets us some of the most up to date info on anyone out there.

We also employ a couple of private eyes that are somewhat entrepreneurial that will not only locate the owner but set up the appt for between 500-1000 per closed transaction.

These are a few of the tools we use to locate our sellers... And our buyers.

Hope this helps!!

P.S. I mentioned if the owner is a professional of some sort.

If they are, check your states Secretary of State corporation look up, manytimes in their filings you will find their phone numbers.

P.S.S. If they own or run a website, that turns out to be an easy search. Whois.sc is like a whitepages for domain owners. Unless they specifically use and pay for a private service, you will have their email and phone number right there. (Try Zillow for example. I used the tool to speak to someone at the company to learn how to get info on expired listings off Zillow)

Again, hope this helps

Account Closed
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I don't understand...are you just getting numbers to call people out-of-the-blue?  Be careful you don't run afoul of the non-solicitation laws.  You start a call campaign and someone is on the Do Not Call Registry, it is a $10,000 fine per occurrence.

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@Shane Clark

I use the intelius app on my iphone.   Monthly cost is $9.99.  I have had great success with it.


Frank

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Rick H.#4 Marketing Your Property Contributor
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Rick H.#4 Marketing Your Property Contributor
  • Lender
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if it were me, I'd work no more than 50-100 names at a time. 

Go for quality. As you pursue these leads, you'll close a few and then you can reinvest some of your profits into higher end services like Lexis Nexus and train someone to upload batch files for processing or outsource the no-hit leads to a pro skip trace service.

The reason I advise you approach in this manner is that many people inadvertently become data hoarders but never take any meaningful action on the info they do have. This will hold yourself accountable and make tons more dough when you limit your list building.

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Sean OToole
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Sean OToole
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@Account Closed what does the do not call registry have to do with calling someone to offer to buy their home?

https://www.donotcall.gov/faq/faqbusiness.aspx#who

Who Is Covered By The National Do Not Call Registry?

The National Do Not Call Registry applies to any plan, program, or campaign to sell goods or services through interstate phone calls. This includes telemarketers who solicit consumers, often on behalf of third party sellers. It also includes sellers who provide, offer to provide, or arrange to provide goods or services to consumers in exchange for payment.

I added the underlining. That said in this world of consumer protection you never know how regulators will try to twist it. And you do need to exercise some caution. For example if you are a wholesaler, you are essentially getting paid out of the consumers equity to arrange a sale, so I'd be careful there. On the other hand, if you are looking to add to your rental profile, it seems unlikely DNC would apply. Note that I'm not attorney, so you may want to check with one before firing up a big telesales operation. ;-)

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Shane Clark
  • Commercial Real Estate Agent
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Shane Clark
  • Commercial Real Estate Agent
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@David Dey, thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise.  I'll be referring to your post often as I improve my farm list database.  Great info! 

@Franklin Romine, I've heard good things about Intellius, I might get a month subscription and see if I can fill in some holes from Spokeo and whitepages.  

@Sean OToole and @Account Closed, I've looked into the DNC issues too.  I've found that leading the conversation with information is the safest bet.  Lead with information, build rapport, and then ask for listing or sale.  There is no rule against providing free information. 

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Franklin Romine
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@Shane Clark

Intellius has a free trial period...

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James Tyler
  • Realtor
  • Orange County, CA
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James Tyler
  • Realtor
  • Orange County, CA
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Hi Shane,

I have paid for and used Spokeo, White Pages, Intelius, BeenVerified and KnowThyCustomer. They all aren't bad. However, I found FastPeopleSearch.com to be the best. Not only it offers more and better contact information, it"s free. It shares the same database as TruePeopleSearch.com and FindPeopleSearch.com.

You got this! 

James

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I've been testing out TruePeopleSearch which seems pretty good. It come up with a big list of phone numbers for most names.

I'm wondering if a paid skip-trace is any better? or just faster/cheaper?