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Where is Baltimore on the Cycle of Reason?

Sam Henry
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  • Baltimore, MD
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I am a Baltimore, MD native and I invest in my own backyard. Fortunately, the numbers make sense here. From what I've observed, the market for 1-4 unit rentals is great! However, I've begun to set my sights on larger multifamily deals (20 - 50 units).

One of the resources that I've recently picked up to help educate myself on the apartment game is the "The Apartment Consultant eBook" by Peter Harris. In it he stresses the importance of knowing where your market is in the cycle.

I'd like to get a consensus from other Baltimore investors. Where do you think Baltimore City currently falls on Peter's "Real Estate Cycle of Reason" (pictured below)?

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Ned Carey
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@Sam Henry Dave Lindahl the apartment guru talks about market cycles. Market cycles can make you a fortune in just about any business if you understand them.

Keep in mind, market cycles are not perfect sine waves.

We are at the point on the bottom of the cycle right above where it says "BUY." The problem is, cycles are not perfect. Are we going to go sideways for 5 years? Will we see the second shoe drop and have further declines ? Will it surprise us and go almost straight up? No one knows.

What we do know is we are below the long term average. This means the odds are it will start climbing towards that long term average.

On the other hand, anytime you are above the long term trend line, the odds are it will start moving down towards the long term average.

I have not been following the multi family market closely becuase I am currently priced out of it. But I'll thow my 2 cents in anyway. Multi family in Baltimore is priced at cap rates well below SFHs. I also believe given the risk of Baltimore City the high prices (low cap rates) are not justified. It is my understanding that there is significant multi family building in Baltimore. I don't know where they expect the demand to come from.

Personally I believe the multi family market is grossly overpriced nationally. I don't think multi family investors recognize the tremendous risk they are taking by buying at low cap rates. Further artificially low interest rates are propping up cash flow in a way that is unsustainable.

Financial collapse in the Multi family market was averted because of higher demand and rents due to foreclosures and home ownership declines. Also the policy of extend and pretend helped. The point being investors just got plain lucky when the grossly overpaid in the boom times of the mid 2000s. consequently I believe investors continue to overpay and not understand the risks they are taking. @Joel Owens do you care to comment?

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