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Updated about 4 years ago, 11/06/2020

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Adam M.
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First Rental Property Purchase in Jacksonville, FL

Adam M.
  • Investor
  • Frederick, MD
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Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Jacksonville.

Purchase price: $110,000
Cash invested: $30,000

I used a conventional loan with 25% down to purchase this SFH on Jacksonville's Westside. Rent-to-price ratios are strong in this neighborhood, so this deal exceeds the 1% rule easily as it currently rents for $1250/month. Updates to the house included paint, LVP flooring, and some other minor cosmetic fixes totaling $5k. This was an estate sale that I found through the MLS.

Principal, Interest, Insurance, and Taxes: $490
Monthly Rent: $1250
Vacancy/CapEx: $375 (30%)
Prop. Management: $150
Monthly Cash Flow: $235

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I've had an appreciation for Florida and Florida-style homes for a while now, and with the growth in Jacksonville, I started to become very interested in this market for investing. Home prices are also considerably lower in this area vs. where I reside in Maryland, so I can scale faster investing in this area.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found this deal on the MLS the day it was listed and put in offer in right away - at full price. Initially, the sellers rejected and accepted a higher offer. That deal fell through, and they asked if we would like to make another offer. Again, we offered at full price, and they accepted. We were also able to get some credit back at closing.

How did you finance this deal?

I financed this deal through a conventional loan at 25% down.

How did you add value to the deal?

This was a light rehab, only needing updated flooring and paint, along with a few other minor cosmetic fixes. Comparable homes in this area are selling for about $125-$130k, so after investing $5k into repairs, I would estimate I have forced around $15k in equity into this house.

What was the outcome?

We were able to land a tenant in about 2.5 weeks! This is a buy-and-hold investment for long-term rentals.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

It didn't matter that much in the end, but in hindsight, it's a good idea for out of state investors to hire on a property management group early on. They know the lay of the land very well, and can ensure that you are not offering on properties in bad areas.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Agent: The Brett Nissen Team
Property Management: Valiant Realty

I highly recommend the Brett Nissen Team and Valiant Realty.

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Josh Taylor
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  • Olin, NC
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Josh Taylor
  • Rental Property Investor
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@Adam Miglio

Congratulations on your deal!! The numbers look good. Jacksonville is on my radar for some OOS investing soon

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Adam M.
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Adam M.
  • Investor
  • Frederick, MD
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Thanks @Josh Taylor! I'm already thinking about the next investment I will make down there.

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AliceSun Norman
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
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AliceSun Norman
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
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Thanks for this post! I am a new investor in jacksonville and would LOVE to find a deal like this! Can I ask what area you are finding great rent to price ratios? I have bought 2 duplexes in higher priced areas but want to look for solid single family homes for my next few deals. 

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AliceSun Norman
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
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AliceSun Norman
  • Rental Property Investor
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Ask, If you need some info or help with Jacksonville homes, let me know if there is anything I can do to help! (Though obviously you’re doing pretty well from a distance already! 😊)

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Jonathan Tavarez
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Jonathan Tavarez
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Laurel, MD
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Hi @Adam M.,

Sounds like a good solid deal, congrats!  It is a great filling when you are done with a project and your numbers where correct.

Just wondering since I see you are from Frederick, was there a reason for you to decide to invest in Jacksonville vs Baltimore?  I have a friend in Germantown that is doing a similar approach (getting properties down in Florida) because he doesn't even want to see his rentals or do any work on them but I'm constantly telling him that in Baltimore the cash flow numbers are better.  Just curious what was your criteria to be an out of state investor.

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Nicholas Grandstaff
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ellicott City, MD
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Nicholas Grandstaff
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ellicott City, MD
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@Adam Miglio congratulations Adam! Nice deal. Thanks for sharing.

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Andrew Pokrzywinski
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
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Andrew Pokrzywinski
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
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@Adam M. Congrats on the deal! You are in the right market. Main reason I just moved to Jax. I'd love to connect in more detail. 

PS: Further validation https://www.bizjournals.com/ja...

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Adam M.
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Adam M.
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  • Frederick, MD
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Hi @AliceSun Norman,

This particular property is in 32210, and it seems like this zip code has strong rent-to-price ratios overall. I have been told to avoid the "nursery rhyme" road names as these are the higher crime areas, but otherwise, there are some decent areas in this zip code for investors. And thanks, I will certainly reach out since there is still a lot to learn about Jacksonville, it's huge!

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Adam M.
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Adam M.
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  • Frederick, MD
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Hi @Jonathan Tavarez,

Great question. I only considered Baltimore for a very short amount of time, I even lived in Canton downtown for a brief period of time. If I were to invest in Baltimore, it would have definitely been in the east side of the downtown area, and absolutely nowhere else, just because of the issue of crime. The problem is that in the eastern part of town it still would have tied up considerably more money vs. what can be bought in Jacksonville. As far as cash flow is concerned, I'll sacrifice a little bit of that if it means being able to acquire more units in the long run.

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AliceSun Norman
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
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AliceSun Norman
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
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Thanks for that input. I have mainly focused in Riverside and Avondale - less risk, higher prices but less returns. Now that my feet are wet I’m ready to go into something with bigger returns. I’ve been considering 32210 because it’s so close to the military base, which should attract solid tenants! This example pushes me to take a closer look that area, so thank you!! 

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Garrett Askew
  • Rental Property Investor
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Garrett Askew
  • Rental Property Investor
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Great buy! Did you preform the rehab yourself or contract it out?

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Adam M.
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Adam M.
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@Garrett Askew fortunately my property manager had a handyman who took care of everything in just four days, and he did phenomenal work. I was going to drive down and do some of the work myself, but I’m glad I didn’t now. The cost was well worth the quick turnaround time and excellent quality.

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Adam M.
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Adam M.
  • Investor
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@Andrew Pokrzywinski thank you! I am certainly willing to connect in more detail.

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Tiago Ferreira
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Tiago Ferreira
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Congrats @Adam M.. I've been thinking about investing in Jacksonville but still a little bit skeptical about out of state investment. May I ask why did you decide to invest in Jacksonville? Any advise for a newbie in the field? Thank you.

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Adam M.
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Adam M.
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@Tiago Ferreira I decided upon Jacksonville because of the diversified industry, population growth, and rent-to-price ratios. There will also be more long term appreciation vs many other places that people consider for out of state investing.

As for advice, there are two things I can think of that are probably most important for out of state investing, based on my first experience:

- Find a good property management company. You’ll want property management for out of state investing anyways, but these people will also help to educate you on good neighborhoods vs bad neighborhoods, and they will also help you to vet out homes you are considering offering on.

- Research the area as much as possible. BiggerPockets will be your best source of information here, obviously. Jacksonville is huge so there are a lot of areas to become familiar with. I would even recommend spending a few days in the area if you can manage it.

Feel free to reach out if you’d like any further detail!

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Tiago Ferreira
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Tiago Ferreira
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thank you @Adam M.

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Jonathan Oh
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Jonathan Oh
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@Adam M. Awesome! Jax is a great market.