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John S Lewis
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Are asset based loans gone for good?

John S Lewis
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Does anyone know of any lenders still doing 30 year refi loans on rental property with just asset based criteria?

That was my main BRRRR strategy and it know seems like its gone.

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@John S Lewis As I'm sure you've found, 99.9% of the folks doing these loans have paused operations.  Luckily, I know several that still have 100s of millions of dollars in liquidity (fine in the long term) but have paused alongside their competitors as a conservative measure in the wake of uncertainty caused by this virus although the big issue is servicing/back end (dried up secondary market for these loans/pending foreclosure wave).  

They're definitely not gone for good but many companies who were over leveraged when this all hit may or may not be able to come back.  However, all the big players will be back once some positive news regarding controlling this pandemic will be reflected in the stock market.  

Most of my partners are currently thinking they'll be back with modified guidelines (higher rates, lower LTVs, stricter guidelines) within a month or so.  

FYI, it's not just asset based loans that are taking a hit. Conventional lenders are getting crushed right now too. Wells Fargo just shut off Jumbo Loans as did UWM (biggest wholesale lender in the country). FHA/Conventional guidelines also have tightened (higher min. FICO for example)

Things will get worse in the next few weeks before they get better.  

Do you have a ballooning note?  How soon do you need to refi?  Stay in touch over the next month or so and I'll be happy to share what I'm seeing on the market for these. 

Here's a few good reads:



https://themortgagereports.com/64357/coronavirus-causes-mortgage-mayhem-with-new-requirements-and-no-rate-locks



http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/channels/pipelinepress/04032020-forbearance-letter.aspx

All the best, 

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