Investment Fund Management: Stretching dollars and Loans

Investment Fund Management: Stretching dollars and Loans

Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach · Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 0 votes

Hi everyone,

I'm a new investor looking to make my first purchase and trying to make sure my first move is properly driving toward my medium-term goal while using the principles of my long-term strategy.

Medium Term Goal:

1. Buy 3-4 properties in the next 2 years. By using a efficient combination of Investment fund spending and low-no-money down loans. 

1a) 1 SFR, then 3 MFRs after that. If SFRs are the only possible option, consider buying them instead for properties 2-4.

Principles of the long-term strategy:

1. Stretch my investment fund to buy as many good properties as it can buy

2. Use 0% down loans primarily for multifamily properties that can cashflow even with 0% down, high prices, and increased mortgage

3. use 0% down loans rarely for anything other than primary property type

4. Ideally save as much of the investment fund as possible for potential rehab and reno needs or emergencies.

5. Use investment fund for down payments when market conditions makes most good deals need it to make numbers work (up to 20% down).

6. Adjust mid-term goal as appropriate if good forward movement requires it, market conditions require it, and or personal situation requires it.

My Situation:

The market is hot. Market conditions have tripped principle #5. Low inventory. Bids are common. Interest rates are high. Prices aren't lowering because we're in a very desirable part of Virginia that's uniquely stabilized and protected from recession patterns. I've found a discounted SFR selling for $350 and in need of reno in an A+ neighborhood (very great area). The property would cashflow and have about a 13% Internal Rate of Return. The competition is likely going to force me to bid as high as $405k. That plus the potential $50k of rehab, 20% down, and closing costs is going to deplete my investment fund. I'll still have emergency funds for monthly expenses with vacancies; but principle 5 of my strategy will be compromised in exchange. I wanted to buy multi-families after this using 0% down, but I'm worried about losing my options to use down payments or rehab funds if needed.

Question:

Would you recommend going through on the bid? Or is it better to save the investment fund to use it on multiple properties instead?

Thanks!

Dean

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  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    To be blunt you are not getting 0% down loans. For SF you can find 3-5% loans. Multi family only if you occupy 1 of the units you can do 3.5% FHA other then that it is 20-25% down.

  • Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach · Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    @Caleb Brown, Thanks! I didn't mention I was considering using a VA loan to get 0% down. VA's not as attractive to sellers as other loans though; so I'm conservative about deciding to use it in this market in my area.

  • Lender · CO CA TX WA ID OR · Member since 2020 · 419 posts · 542 votes
    3y

    Hi @Dean Williams, thanks for your thorough explanation and I'm going to apologize ahead of time for being curt.

    Although your goals are ambitious and completely doable, it appears you might have some delusion when it comes to what's available for you and what works.

    VA loans Are exceptional loan products and if you have a good team behind you, sellers do not care about the loan type you are using. I'm a veteran, I quit my job by using VA loans to help build my next egg, and now I pursue investing and being a lender full time helping other veterans and investors build their wealth and use the tools available to them - primarily a VA loan, among other products as well.

    Outside of a VA loan, you can use a down payment assistance FHA 0% down loan, but you still need to come up with closing costs. Additionally, these are not investment loans, these are all primary residences that you need to live in for 1 year at least to be compliant.

    Don't limit yourself to this nonsense about VA loans and sellers. Whoever told you that sucks and you should find someone else that is an expert in getting veterans into homes - try Vetted VA. Because apparently this person that you were talking to is ignorant and spreading misinformation to you that you are posting here online.

    Your situation that you’re describing about the market you’re in, interest rates, and your analysis of the area is make believe. At this point, you are not participating in the market, which is fine, but your opinion of it is garbage - and again, from a non-participant. Real investors are still finding deals regardless of market conditions and are not blaming these external factors on everything else but their inaction.

    It’s ok that you’re here, we all were at some point. But if I don’t tell you this, then no one else will. Dig deeper, stop putting imaginary obstacles in the way, and start using the tools that you have available to you.@Dean Williams

  • Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach · Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    3y

    Thank you @Erik Browning. I do need to see past the obstacles and it looks like I was given some bad advice on the VA loan earlier. I appreciate the direct advice! Would you recommend these ways or other ways I can put your advice in practice?

    1) For starters, should I look at properties that aren't being bid on as much? 

    2) I'll be more adamant about using the VA loan and reconsider who I'm getting advice on it from.

    3) I'd rather not wait for interest rates to drop; instead is it a better idea to look for properties I can make lowball offers on with more success?

    Thanks again!


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