Anyone has experience with Brad Chandler Coaching?

[Zigphryg Bello]

I have no experience with real estate or wholesaling but need a systematic program to start. $5500 for Brad Chandler Level 1 coaching. Any thoughts?

[Jay Hinrichs]

Originally posted by @Viktor R.:

@Lior Reich, @Caleb Heimsoth@Jason D., @Vitaly Shevrov. 

Let me first start off with saying that I’ve done 100 deals in wholesaling, I’ve made over one million in revenue, and I’m a top producer in the Seattle Market. I’m not bragging but laying a foundation so you can see where I am coming from. 

When I started real estate, I didn’t have anything. I had to save everything and then spend it on marketing to get to the point where I am today. I’ve made mistakes in the beginning of my career that would have saved me hundreds of thousands of dollars including a deal worth $400,000. I didn’t use a coach and my results showed for it. 

If you don’t believe in coaching, I empathize with you. There are so many sales pitches today, it’s hard to distinguish a good coaching program from a crappy one. The  skepticism about these coaches/gurus is real.  I was and still am on the skepticism scale but now to a lesser degree.  

From my previous experience, I can tell you that this same skepticism has also prevented me from excelling. I’ve done deals. I’ve made money. I can tell you that having a leader who has already achieved what you are trying to obtain makes the path much smoother with less mistakes. Why reinvent the wheel? If someone who has the proof of a track record and they can show you how, why not take that path?  If you are expecting this knowledge to be free, please stop thinking in terms of “The lottery mindset” where no effort or extremely tiny effort is needed to achieve a huge return. The lottery is a scam. Thinking you’ll get knowledge for free is a scam. It absolutely costs you something. Either you will pay it in money or time. If I would have hired the right coach in the beginning, I would have saved myself so much heartache and pain. 

Why did Micheal Phelps, Michael Jordan, Serena Williams,  Andre Agassi,  Tiger Woods, and other professional athletes have a coach? Were they just  incapable of learning and training on their own? Coaches are powerful because they see the forest from the outside where we only see the thickness of the trees surrounding us. Coaches are able to guide and mold you but it’s up to you to put in the hard work, effort, MASSIVE action, and grit. This is why these athletes achieved at such a high level because they had coaches. When coaches are introduced into real estate, folks have an  aversion to the concept but completely accept that concept in sports. 

You might say, “Well, I’m successful and I didn’t have a coach.” First off CONGRATULATIONS! I want to knowledge your hard work. That takes serious tenacity. Second, you probably paid for that success with a lot of time and a lot of money. You can’t achieve success without spending those two resources. I’m also not saying you can’t be successful without a coach. You absolutely can because you’re living proof. What I am saying is coaches can get you to where you want to be much faster, with less trail and error mistakes, and more efficiently. 

To that I say if you still disagree with having a coach, forget all that I said, go out take massive action, figure it out on your own, make a lot of mistakes, get frustrated, keep learning, apply the knowledge, and just keep going unless you fail into success. But after doing all of that, look back and see if you could have done it better. See for yourself and ask the question once you’re there, “If I would have known what I know now, would I have done better?” If the answer is yes (100% likely), a coach is a great way to go. What if you could have been a mentor/ coach to your younger self? Would that have made a difference? 

The take away is done take my word for it. Don’t ever take anybody’s word for it. Test it out for yourself. The proof is in the results. 

I am basically pro coach for the right coach.. issue today is you have many that are all hat and no cattle.. they say they did this but did they really.. I have been to masterminds that had some of the top wholesale gurus and other guru's in them. and some of the questions these so called experts ask is really quite funny.. what they are really good at is marketing themselves and their class's..

One can simply pop on E bay and look up your favorite coach there will be students who never did anything selling all their books Cds etc for 50 to 100 bucks I would go about collecting all of those first .. 

As for coaching costs its not cheap.. If U can stroke a check for it.. then great but to get talked into putting it on your credit card this puts far to many people into massive debt they will have a very hard time climbing out of .

Wholesaling is by far the hardest thing to do in real estate.. and for those that succeed at it I call them the 1% ers  they will succeed at any sales position  selling cars  insurance  annuities you name it.. they are just good at it. 

There is nothing new or unknown in real estate.. the laws are the laws and have been on the books forever.. it comes down to what most small business come down to.. Proper capitalization out of the gate so you can sustain..  a receptive market.. and sales skills.. without those pretty tough.

Just like top producing RE agents.. many hardly know the back end of how real estate works.. I know I have owned 4 brokerages and had well over 500 agents work for me..  For every @Russell Brazil out there that really knows the structure of how transactions work from marketing to escrow closings etc.. there are 100 that have no clue.. they are just good at marketing themselves and over the years they may pick up on things.. but really its just get the contract and hand to title company and duck.. or like in Illinois were attorneys handle it all for agents.. My wife is a top producer and with her business ( selling mom and pops homes to live in) she is quite good .. But she still defers to me when there are title issues or other complicated matters of title etc.. but boy she knows her way around a home inspection and exactly what FHA and VA look for in a house and how to work with appraisers the things she needs to be successful.. PS she was a trainer for Floyd Wickman in the day.. He is one of the good coachs for real estate agents.