Anything equivalent to Renatus "COURSE" cheaper or free?

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Hi Terrell,I'm in Utah where Renatus seems to be growing a lot. I bought the full package. I was a BiggerPockets reader long before I knew Renatus so I knew I could probably build my own "curriculum" if I looked around enough. I won't go into why I chose to go with Renatus, as most people on this site who do that are criticized a bit. I believe the best way to find books that are "equivalent to the courses" is to find out who teaches each class and find their material online and through their books.. For example, Mark Kohler teaches all the Tax and Legal strategy courses. I'm guessing you can get most of the important information that he teaches in those courses from his books, so google his books and read all those. Then find the instructor of another appealing class and look for their books, podcasts, or whatever else they have. If you have trouble finding the names of the teachers of all the Renatus courses, let me know and I can help out. I'm a big fan of doing things on your own and saving money. Each person's situation is different--for me it wasn't worth assembling my own curriculum. But if you have the motivation, go for it.I read a post a few weeks ago about deciding whether to purchase education. While Renatus isn't a typical "guru" course in my eyes, this article can be helpful in deciding which route to take...https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2012/05/2...Good luck!

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@Terrell Hurston,I can't speak for @Bryce Young.To me, what makes it worth it are:You buy it once, and have access for life (except the middle package which is only 1 year) including all updates and additions. Credit management was just added last year. Commercial RE was added this year. Business credit is coming later this year.The classes are available on on-line, 24 x 7.Some locations have a community similar to a REIA with long-timers, newbies, lenders, contractors, lawyers, CPAs, etc. ... everything you'd find at a REIA, only they all have the same REI education you have so you all speak the same language at the same level.Some of the communities now offer weekly study groups to help you understand what you're learning.Renatus just partnered with Greg Clements to develop their private version of Realeflow at a monthly rate well below what Greg and others charge for the same level of service, plus Renatus-specific additions and enhancements.Renatus is developing a whole new on-line experience for students and affiliates due out early next year.Purely my opinions... Your mileage may vary.

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I've personally never heard of this guy. What type of investing is he teaching? What is the cost and the details of the coarse?

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My husband and I tried to find information and resources for free before finding Renatus and it was simply jumbled, all over the place, outdated, incorrect, and vague. We also didn't know who to turn to, what questions to ask, or what we didn't know. Sure, there are a few good books, but I feel like no real education is available by these professionals absolutely free. For us, it was worth it to join Renatus because we knew the information was kept current, up to date, organized, and we had support and hand-holding by people who were actually practicing what they were preaching. I feel like, with education and investing, you get out what you're willing to put into it. For us, the proof was in the pudding when we paid off $85K of debt in 11 months (including the education, itself) and were able to sell one of our investment properties for double what we got it for in a short amount of time. Sorry to not be more helpful, those are just my honest thoughts and experiences.

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Thanks David Dachtera good info

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Yes I did, I got all the bells and whistles. Yes, and all the separate vocational tracks. I was skeptical about the quality or the education but I've learned things in those classes that I've never heard anywhere else. (Again, maybe I could have found it by myself but it would have taken much longer) It was worth it for me. I have spent a lot of time at local real estate investment clubs, taken investors out to lunch, read lots of books, and so forth. I didn't really start having success until I started working with Renatus. My mentor is awesome. He's done lots of deals and is very willing to help me succeed. It was hard for me to find someone like that before. And the education itself is very good quality in my opinion. It gives your more than just a high level introduction. It walks you through the details and gives you specific scenarios. It really depends on the character of the people that will be on your "team". If you sense that they will really help you and they're are actually doing deals and not just marketing, then it could be the right path. I think BP is going to beef up their educational videos in the near future. I would also see what they have so far and make sure you watch everything they have. In conclusion, evaluate the people that would be "mentoring" you if you joined Renatus. Ask them how many deals they have done and why they joined. Ask them specifically what they have learned from the education and how they have applied it. If they can give you satisfactory answers and you feel good about working with them, its probably a good fit. If they are inexperienced and are too focused on marketing, learn as much as you can outside of Renatus or scout around inside Renatus to find more knowledgeable people. I hope that helps!

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Thanks Bryce Young for the insight. Did you say you got the full package? That came with all the classes and the one on one coach right? You seem like a neutral guy not "pro Renatus" or "pro find it yourself" so my question to you is do you think it was worth it?