Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Take Your Forum Experience
to the Next Level
Create a free account and join over 3 million investors sharing
their journeys and helping each other succeed.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
Already a member?  Login here
Quebec Real Estate Forum
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 9 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

6
Posts
2
Votes
Philippe S.
  • Investor
  • Brossard, Québec
2
Votes |
6
Posts

The 2% and 50% Rules

Philippe S.
  • Investor
  • Brossard, Québec
Posted

It seems impossible to me to find deals that will follow the 2% or 50% rules in the Montreal region.  Is it just me or the numbers should be different in our market ?  What are the rules that work for you?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

825
Posts
413
Votes
Jonathan Makovsky
  • Investor
  • Fairfield-New Haven-Hartford County, CT
413
Votes |
825
Posts
Jonathan Makovsky
  • Investor
  • Fairfield-New Haven-Hartford County, CT
Replied

@Philippe S. I do not know the Montreal market, but will chime in from my area.

The 2% and 50% "rule" are NOT rules. They are general guidelines that may or may not be good indicators of properties to buy.

The 2% rule is just saying that the monthly rent is 2% of the purchase price (or if you annualize that 2% x 12 months then your annual rent is 24% of the purchase price). However, sometimes the topline figure is only part of the equation. Think about Amazon - who is crushing it in revenue - but for so long was losing money on their bottom line, and the reason is because their expenses were higher than their revenue. 

Now, I will apply it to some of the markets I am in where you can easily find 2% all day. However - in my opinion - many of them are junk and will not cashflow because the expenses can be so high, particularly the real estate taxes. Yet in other parts of the country the taxes are 1/3 of my market AND other costs here are higher too. So don't just look at the topline (i.e. 2% rule) to see if there are deals.

The 50% "guideline" is also a guideline, however, I would strongly recommend using the BP Calculator for a better idea of your returns. There are still assumptions that will be hard for a newbie investor to calculate (e.g. Repairs and Maintenance, Capital Reserves, Vacancy/Bad Debt Loss, etc.), however, a lot of the other information should be fairly east to obtain like the real estate taxes, insurance (call several brokers), landscaping/snow removal (call local investors to find out who they use).

Your best bet is finding someone local to your market and speaking to them what will be a good deal. 

Also, if you are still not finding deals that work. Are there areas within 100 mile radius that might bring better results?

Good luck and hope you can find your niche.

Loading replies...