Cleveland Market 2019

[Charlene Isoh]

Hi fellow biggerpockets colleagues!!!!...I have been studying various markets looking to make my first solo rental property investment for quite sometime and living in expensive markets (i now reside in DC) without a vehicle it's been a bit of a challenge finding a market within my range. As markets continue to rise around me I have finally made the leap to look into Cleveland as it fits my criteria (I'm a cashflow person (appreciation is a plus but not a necessity) and conservative when it comes to what i'm looking for properties in C+ and above working class areas where vacancy rates are not high, tenants are stable, and listing price is no more than 80k (cashflowing around 200-300 after all expenses would be a sweet spot). I have the means to start pulling the trigger on growing my portfolio but lack a trustworthy base in that area that could assist. Being a green investor i would love references to investor friendly real estate agents and any bit of advise that theoretical data and google searches can't provide to me not being in the Cleveland market...i really appreciate your time in reading this message!

-Char

[James Wise]

Originally posted by @Charlene Isoh:

Hi fellow biggerpockets colleagues!!!!...I have been studying various markets looking to make my first solo rental property investment for quite sometime and living in expensive markets (i now reside in DC) without a vehicle it's been a bit of a challenge finding a market within my range. As markets continue to rise around me I have finally made the leap to look into Cleveland as it fits my criteria (I'm a cashflow person (appreciation is a plus but not a necessity) and conservative when it comes to what i'm looking for properties in C+ and above working class areas where vacancy rates are not high, tenants are stable, and listing price is no more than 80k (cashflowing around 200-300 after all expenses would be a sweet spot). I have the means to start pulling the trigger on growing my portfolio but lack a trustworthy base in that area that could assist. Being a green investor i would love references to investor friendly real estate agents and any bit of advise that theoretical data and google searches can't provide to me not being in the Cleveland market...i really appreciate your time in reading this message!

-Char

There are some great rental neighborhoods in Cleveland. There are also some incredibly blighted areas. Prices will vary widely and you need to know why that is. As such I created The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods so out of state investors can get a firm grasp on the Cleveland market.

Knowing the pros and cons of each type of neighborhood is very important. Take a look at some photos below to see some of the things you should be prepared for if you engage in investing in these blighted areas. Note; these are all photos of properties in my company's rental portfolio. We have a portfolio of over 1,000 rentals in a wide range of neighborhoods in Cleveland.

Tenants got into a fight over a nominal sum of money. Burning one parties car was the way one of the parties involved decided to handle the situation.

Best part about the car fire was one of the parties forgot which car was owned by the tenant. They just knew it was gold. So they set all of the gold cars they saw in the parking lot on fire.

No caption necessary for this toilet from hell.

This is what a kitchen can look like when a low income tenant moves out of it.

This is what a backyard can look like when a low income tenant moves out of it.

If tenants in these tough neighborhoods don't have yards, don't worry they will light off their fourth of July fireworks in their bathrooms.

Don't worry though. Sometimes when they move out they forget about their unregistered firearms.

Another point i'd like to make is you can make or loose money in any market. Don't think that one particular out of state market will shoot you to success or abject failure. It's not really that complicated to buy out of state. It only becomes complicated when investors try to over complicate or over think everything. Whenever you are buying a property out of state you should do a few things to ensure it's as smooth as possible.

• Don't buy in the roughest neighborhood in the urban core. Pick a solid B-Class suburban area. Perhaps a nice 1950's built bungalow.
• Always hire a 3rd party property inspector to give you an unbiased feel for the home. The reports are 40-90 pages long and go through the entire house in great detail.
• Get an appraisal. If your using financing the bank requires this. This is good. The bank isn't going to let you blow their money. They have more skin in the game then you do.
• Make sure you get clear title. If using a lender this is a non issue. They will make you do this. It's those maniacs that buy homes cash via quit claim deed off of craigslist that really get screwed.
• Make sure your property manager is a licensed real estate brokerage.
• Understand you can not eliminate all risk, only mitigate it. If you are risk adverse real estate, (especially out of state) is not for you.