Buy, Fix, and Hold - HML refi to 30 yr

Buy, Fix, and Hold - HML refi to 30 yr

Dallas, TX · Member since 2010 · 56 posts · 2 votes

I have been thinking about a buy, fix, and hold strategy as of late. I know it can be done, but I'm trying my best to figure how much money it will actually take to execute. The idea is to buy wholesale with a hard money loan that is 65% - 70% LTV (includes acquisition money as well as rehab money), fix it up and get a renter in it, then refinance to a 30 year fixed rate mortgage with a bank.

Factors I know I need to accommodate for:
- HML points up front
- HML interest only payments (monthly)
- Utilities
- Insurance
- Prorated property taxes (for the period before escrow is set up on the 30 year loan)
- Loan origination fees (if these are not rolled into the loan)

I have a near perfect credit score and zero debt, save for the revolving credit on my card, but that is paid in full every two weeks.

My questions:
1) How much LTV could I reasonably refinance out to? Last time I spoke with a mortgage broker in earnest, I could get 80% but that was on a straight MLS purchase, not for a refinance from hard money. Does that make a difference?
2) Is seasoning likely to be an issue? How long will a bank want me to hold the property before the refinance?
3) Am I missing any factors?

It seems like I should be able to get a 75% - 80% LTV refinance, and that would put my net out of pocket expenses to be extremely low when everything is all said and done - perhaps under $10k for a house worth more than $100k.

Thoughts?

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  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    15y

    Speak again with your mortgage broker, but 75% would be a good assumption on the max LTV.

    Since you seem to want to use a new appraisal, you should assume you will need to own the property for a year. Its possible that you might find a broker or lender who will do it in six months, but that's the absolute minimum.

    You will need to qualify for the loan. The rent will probably not be included in qualifying.

    If you want to try to do this with no money out of pocket, you will need both a screaming deal and a very flexible hard money lender. If your HML is willing to lend 70%, your purchase plus rehab will need to be something like 55% of ARV in order to give you money to cover the points, interest payments closing costs and everything else. Many HMLs are requiring you have cash into the deal. E.G., they might lend 80% of the purchase price plus 80% of the rehab costs, up to 70% of ARV. You have to come up with the remaining 20% of purchase and rehab and have to cover all the other costs.

    Don't assume you can get ANY cash out of the refinance.

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