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Convert Single-family to add more units

Kyryl Sokolov
Posted Jul 10 2024, 23:30

Hello, Bigger Pockets! First timer here. I have bought single family owner occupied unit in seattle NR3 zoning(residential single family up to 2 ADUs allowed). 

I have 2 story house with the basement. 3/1 with opportunity to add second bathroom on the second floor.  

I am exploring the idea of removing the stairs in the main house to the 2 floor and stairs to the basement to convert the 2nd story to a separate unit(add stairs outside) and convert the basement(cut egress door). 

It seems like a very sophisticated project, but doable. I have around 150-200k.

Should I convert 2nd story unit to ADU or convert the house to the multifamily? What is the difference? What are pros and cons?

With the basement its a bit trickier. Height of the ceiling without floor is 6’ 10. It has some cracks on the floor and slight slope. To make it legal adu I need at least 7 feet of ceilings. House built in 1925, are there any grandpa low to make it legal with the current height without digging-out basement? Should I take a rout of a non-confirmed unit? What are the legal problem I can face by renting non-confirmed unit? Is it worth to dig-out 0.5 - 1 feet of the basement to make it confirmed? 

Where should I start? Architect(seems very expensive) or architectural designer will be enough? Or any other expertise could be consulted to start this project ?

I am new to the real estate business and this country, thats why I really appreciate any guidence here.

Thank you in advance folks!

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Ryan Treacy
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Ryan Treacy
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Replied Jul 11 2024, 07:59

Hey @Kyryl Sokolov, congrats on the property, it seems like it will be a fun project. Zoning ordinances, building codes, and ADU rules are all hyper local, so I would suggest you get an architect involved to help sort through everything. Make sure you hire a licensed architect, this project will need a building permit, and non-licensed designers cannot apply for a building permit.

ADU's typically have less code impact on the property. For example, in some cities you don't need to add a parking space for an ADU where you would need to add one for an additional unit. Similar things apply to overall building square footage, building height, etc. This is a general statement, so you would need to research your local codes to see how it applies in your case.

If you proceed with the project, you should go through the proper permitting process. If you don’t, they can force you to remove the new construction and restore it back to its original state and issue fines. This will likely come up if you ever try to sell.

Good luck!

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Kurt West
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An architect is your best friend during this phase. He/She will know the answers to all of your questions.

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Replied Jul 11 2024, 15:49
Quote from @Kurt West:

An architect is your best friend during this phase. He/She will know the answers to all of your questions.


Hi, Kurt, thanks for the advice. I see that you are an architect tourself. Do you have any recommendations how to distinguish great architect from not that great for my project?  

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Adrian Chu
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Adrian Chu
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Replied Jul 14 2024, 04:11
Quote from @Kyryl Sokolov:

Hello, Bigger Pockets! First timer here. I have bought single family owner occupied unit in seattle NR3 zoning(residential single family up to 2 ADUs allowed). 

I have 2 story house with the basement. 3/1 with opportunity to add second bathroom on the second floor.  

I am exploring the idea of removing the stairs in the main house to the 2 floor and stairs to the basement to convert the 2nd story to a separate unit(add stairs outside) and convert the basement(cut egress door). 

It seems like a very sophisticated project, but doable. I have around 150-200k.

Should I convert 2nd story unit to ADU or convert the house to the multifamily? What is the difference? What are pros and cons?

With the basement its a bit trickier. Height of the ceiling without floor is 6’ 10. It has some cracks on the floor and slight slope. To make it legal adu I need at least 7 feet of ceilings. House built in 1925, are there any grandpa low to make it legal with the current height without digging-out basement? Should I take a rout of a non-confirmed unit? What are the legal problem I can face by renting non-confirmed unit? Is it worth to dig-out 0.5 - 1 feet of the basement to make it confirmed? 

Where should I start? Architect(seems very expensive) or architectural designer will be enough? Or any other expertise could be consulted to start this project ?

I am new to the real estate business and this country, thats why I really appreciate any guidence here.

Thank you in advance folks!

To make it into legal accessory dwelling units, you would need to apply for the permit to do so. For the short basement, you can underpin/dig down or lift the house up. It's not worth spending so much money on a short basement even if you can, as it will affect the end result. 

Does your property have a backyard?  Another option is to consider building a detached adu if feasible.

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Kurt West
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Replied Jul 14 2024, 06:56
Quote from @Kyryl Sokolov:
Quote from @Kurt West:

An architect is your best friend during this phase. He/She will know the answers to all of your questions.


Hi, Kurt, thanks for the advice. I see that you are an architect tourself. Do you have any recommendations how to distinguish great architect from not that great for my project?  


- Review their portfolio.  
- Just call some architects, ask them about their process. Take good notes.
- Ask them about their fees and schedule. That should help you with your decision.