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Jacob Beg
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Will this invalidate an insurance claim?

Jacob Beg
  • Woodbridge, VA
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Hi All- 

I purchased a property from a Trustee foreclosure sale. The risk of loss (fire, accident etc) passes on to the purchaser from the purchase date. It took me a few days to get in touch with the occupant who was a tenant at the property- not the most cooperative guy. 

I insured the property a few days after the sale. The tenant, by oral agreement, vacated the property within a few days of the property being insured. He wouldn't sign anything or produce any documents. 

Our agent was at site when the guy was vacating- so far so good. 


Two days late, the agent carried out a spot check on the property discovering a massive water leak because of what appeared to be a faulty diverter. 

An insurance claim was filed the same day due to the extent of the damage. The filed inspector came out almost two weeks later. From the very start, he seems to have an adverse/hostile approach. He has suggested that if the property didn't have heat, it "may" be a problem. A plumber has identified a faulty diverter as the cause of the water leak which has nothing to do with whether the heat was working or not. There were no burst water pipes etc. 

It appears that between the tenant leaving the property and the day of damage (2-3 days) the power was off and potentially no heat, is that a ground for declining the claim. The adjuster attempted to suggest that a lack of heat may have caused the diverter to malfunction. I asked him whether that is the view he is grounding himself in? If so, perhaps I should be getting a public adjuster. 

He changed his tone, telling me to help him so he can help me etc and provide certain documents which I don't have such as lease agreement etc, as the tenant was already in the property. 

The focus of my question is, can the insurer reject the claim on the basis that the property had no heat? Even where lack of heat itself had no bearing on why the diverter gave out in the first place. 


The damage is easily in 30K plus range, so I am quite concerned and  just being proactive. 

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Alisha Wilson
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Alisha Wilson
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You need to request a "full" copy of your insurance policy. Look at the "Exclusions" section to see what exclusions there are related to plumbing leaks. Also, in the "Perils Insured Against" section, look at what is not covered related to plumbing leaks. Make sure you read through the entire policy including any endorsements because there could be exceptions and changes in coverage. I've been in the insurance industry for over 20 years and based on the facts you describe above, this sounds like it would be a covered loss. That said, there are typically exclusions for water losses that are long term in nature. Most states require an insurance company to quote the policy language they are relying on when denying your claim. If the adjuster is telling you the claim will be denied, make sure you ask the adjuster what policy provision they are relying on specifically. What page is it on, what section and subsection? And ask the insurance company for a letter in writing explaining the coverage determination.

Also, insurance companies will sometimes hire independent adjusters to do their field inspections and they may not be employees of the company, and have no authority to make coverage decisions. If that is the case, speak with the desk adjuster who normally is an employee of the company. This is the person who will typically make the final coverage determination. 

Finally, document EVERYTHING. Take pictures of everything, get receipts, etc. The more documentation you have the better. And make sure you do everything you can to mitigate your loss. Most policies require this. Good luck.

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