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Seeking advice on best maximizing my rental properties
Maybe I need to just hire a financial planner but thought I should come here first. Trying to figure out the best way to maximize my equity in my investment properties. Some of them are getting on the older side but have good equity but I just seem to be making bigger repairs on some of them which wipes out the profit for the whole year. So I will list what I have and just seeking some advice because I fell I could be doing more. All my properties are out of state so im paying property managers 8%. Thinking of selling a couple and investing profits in stock market or just putting in high yield savings at 4.5% or potentially buying new properties with less maintenance. Cash our refi a potential option? Dont know much about that. Also Im 49 years old so not into huge risk anymore but dont mind a little. Any thoughts? or do I just hire someone to help. thanks
1. Duplex Paid off( Washington state) Paid off- roughly worth 500k. 38,4000 in yearly rents
2. Duplex Paid off(Washington state)- roughly worth 530,000k 40,800 in yearly rents
3 Triplex Paid off (Washington state) roughly worth 500k 43,2000 in yearly rents
4 Triplex Paid off (Washington state) roughly worth 500k 42,000 in yearly rents
5 4 plex paid off (Arkansas) roughly worth 330000 31,200 in yearly rents
6 single family paid off( Arkansas) roughly worth 200k 19,2000 in yearly rents
7 Duplex (Washington) owe 60,000 worth 450,000 mortgage (900 dollars per month) (taxes insurance included) 38,400 in rents
8 Duplex (Washington) owe 80,000 worth 450,000 mortage (900 dollars per month tax insurance inclueded) 39,000 rents yearls
9 Duplex(Idaho) owe 80,000 worth 430,000 mortgage (900 dollars per month tax insurance included) rents 36,000 rents yearly
10 Single family(Nevada) 0we 280,000 worth 700,000k mortgage ( 2000k per month tax insurance included) rents 37,000 rents yearly
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@Ian Russell first of all, kudo's on getting to where you are, you've done very well and that deserves some pat's on the back, celebrate the win's.
I hear you speaking to questions of the business fundamentals at this "sport", the one's often NOT written of or spoken of. Reason being, most content out there is to draw in "rainbow chasers" and the upstarts. There is a lacking for the nut's & bolt's intermediate.
As much as getting to free & clear and holding forever sounds great and has a natural feeling of being "the" thing to get to. In Business it's neglectful.
As your starting to experience, as @Nathan Gesnerpointed out, your bottom line is eroding.
Let's reframe this and imagine instead of rental real estate you had rental cars.
It readily jumps out that right away when you get a new car into the fleet, it's a great performer even though the net from it is a bit tighter because of covering that acquisition cost.
It rents for more because of that new car smell. No maintenance to be had as, everything is new.
Than a bit into the ownership, that bottom line starts growing and growing. It's this middle timeline that it really starts putting a smile on the face and earns that moniker "cash cow". It's not that old, so it handles the miles well. Sure there's been oil changes and tires, but these expenses were not that big an impact and it's still got "that look" and it books fast and stays booked up.
Now, a little more time passes and all of a sudden that smile is upside down and turned into sentiment of every time that auto is mentioned "great, what now....".
It's easy to get a feeling what was great has become possessed. It's really just the natural arch of time, the miles are taking there toll. They style is now a bit out of date, it's more and more often begrudgingly rented as a later option by people who truly wanted something else but, ok, fine, that's all there is, ok, I guess......
The maintenance seems to be a steady flow, and every time it's gritting teeth hoping and praying it's not another major item of significant cost.
And if keep in this downward cycle, it become a chase of trying to recoup the expense outlay conveyor. And it's a loosing battle but one get's so far into it chasing "it's gotta be done now, I think, I hope, maybe".
Real Estate is no different.
Everything wears out. Everything has a use span. And if stay into any 1 property long enough, no, it's never really "paid-off" because after say 20-odd years your most likely to have to replace EVERYTHING to such an extent that it's an expense roughly matching a complete property purchase itself.
There is a "sweet-spot" of performance that is on average yr 3-7. On average about 5yrs of happy-days.
Now Commercial Residential (apartments etc) is a bit different. Yes, this cycle still happens but it's factored in, at least everyone who know's what there doing factors it in and there is a program for rolling renovations every 4'ish yrs on average. With major renovations every 7'ish. Rejuvenating them to be like-new, with the current trends, etc..
Now too the money.
Your doing yourself a great disservice keeping so much $ locked up in equity.
First of all, your ability to earn off those $'s locked into equity is much more limited, and thus the returns it could be earning, lost.
Second, and so many miss this and it's confuses me, by having expanded net cashflow your also making your tax impact and loss of gross revenues too taxation way WAY bigger than it need be.
A free & clear property = maximizing how much flesh the tax-butcher takes.
And it's a choice, so why choose to donate maximum $ from your pocket to really the worst steward of capitol deployment since..... well since EVER.
Mortgages are your FRIEND. They (a) put the $ in your pocket and (b) limit how much that tax-butcher is taking from the same pocket.
Now INTEREST RATE, because i already feel the questions and arguments of "but, but, but the interest rate is ____".
So here is the TRUTH about lent money: If you borrow me $100 today, and I pay you back that $100 in 10 years, did I give you back $100 ????? NO.
Confused? It's ok, that's understandable, the US education system is designed to make good little consumers, not wise informed investors.
INFLATION.
Inflation is a function that is omnipresent in US economy and really nearly all. Meaning, it will ALWAYS be.
And via inflation, say today that $100 buys a person 3 full tanks of gas. But in 10 years, it buys only 1.5 tanks of gas. So, is that the SAME $100?
NOPE.
So in truth, when a borrow say $100k of money today, to acquire an appreciating asset that we can operate for an appreciating use value, the true and accurate math is that the purchasing power of that $100k we got full use of today, and can pay it off over time, DEMINISHES in it's purchase power over time THUS making it less $ we are paying back over time once inflation adjusted.
And when you understand this, we can understand even an 8% interest rate isn't really the full money plus 8%.
And going a step deeper, it's not you the investor who pay's this 8%, it's the tenants isn't it.
So the only factor that truly matters is does the revenue it will produce cover the expenses to an extent where it's a net profitable venture?
Ok, to wrap it all up.
Most LT professional Landlords keep there leverage point via leveraged/lent funds to a range of 45-65% LTV. As the equity builds and that start hitting on or near 50% is when most start thinking refi, or SELL too 1031 to deploy into other, newer assets resetting that cap-x timeclock too 0.
And smart investors think "facelift" every 4'ish years and renovations/updates every 7'ish.
For your situation I would be discussing Pyramiding, and Consolidation. We would be discussing which is the better fit for yourself, your lifestyle, life goals etc.. Each has it's merits, each has it's thorns.
From there would come the discussion of which financing (OPM) is a best fit for that next chapter of things.
Unless these properties have some special factors such as waterfront etc., I would not get attached to then with thought of "forever home".
Forever Homes are for owner occupants, not for business.
- James Hamling
