Purchase and Lease-back

Purchase and Lease-back

Rental Property Investor · Appleton, WI · Member since 2017 · 49 posts · 20 votes

Working on structuring a deal and would like to know how others may have done it/experiences. Have a family I am working with, they are looking to buy something larger for their family, pay off some debt and I am looking for another rental.

With today’s market, obviously it’d be difficult for them to get an accepted offer on their next place while holding a contingency on selling their current house. In order to remove that contingency, they’d likely have to sell, pay realtor fees, find a rental, move, try to time out a lease, get accepted offer and move again.

I would like to provide a “solution” by buying their house and renting it back to them for principle, interest, tax and insurance. This would help them remove contingency, pay off their debt, have downpayment up front, avoid realtor fees, avoid renting/lease, moving twice and they can end a m2m lease for when the time is right. I would then get a complete turnkey rental at a below market rate in an appreciating area - creating a win-win for both parties.

My question now, is how much of a "premium" should i add to the monthly PITI to set as a rent amount. I'm completely fine with not necessarily profiting until they move but also aware I'll have to report the rent as income. Property tax, insurance and depreciation would cover a decent amount of that ‘profit.' Also, not sure if I should try to define a "future" rent amount of rent exceeds 12mo?

Has anyone structured anything similar before? How have you handled this?

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Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA (19148) · Member since 2020 · 38 posts · 39 votes
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@Dustin Broeren

Charge market rent. Plain and simple. Are you sure they will qualify for a mortgage? What happens if they cant find a house even without the overhang of a contingency. Charge market rent and tbey can live there as long as they want. Im assuming market rent covers youf debt, taxes, ins and provides a reasonable profit.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA (19148) · Member since 2020 · 38 posts · 39 votes
    5y

    @Dustin Broeren

    Charge market rent. Plain and simple. Are you sure they will qualify for a mortgage? What happens if they cant find a house even without the overhang of a contingency. Charge market rent and tbey can live there as long as they want. Im assuming market rent covers youf debt, taxes, ins and provides a reasonable profit.

  • Rental Property Investor · Clarkston, GA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    Dustin, there's more risk in that deal then it would seem.  What if they stopped paying rent, and in eviction court they claimed you defrauded them on the purchase?   Rare but not unheard of a sale getting reversed if they sued based on being mislead.  

    The sale price has to be market, the lease has to be tight, and yes market rent.  I think you would be best farming the rental to a property management co to be arms length from rent collection and possible eviction.

    Its a sad reality, Good samaritans helping family, friends etc get screwed alot.

    The safest scenaroi is if they moved out and rented something short term.  Now they are out of the house.   

    Have you considered it may take a year for them to buy a place, maybe they will give up on looking?   The lease has to be air tight with 7% annual rent increases (what mine is) and best if manged by a PM.   Find market rent in zillow click rental.

    Good luck.

  • Insurance Agent · Norwalk, CT · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    Dustin,

    If you take ownership of the house (ie. the title changes hands), the current owners Insurance will not cover you.  The ownership and use of the property has changed.  Their policy covers their interest in the property which they would no longer have once the ownership changes. 

    You should take out the insurance in your name with you in control of the policy.  You need to know if the policy is paid, that there are no changes being made, etc.   

    The proper Insurance form with most companies is the Dwelling Fire policy (some companies call it a Landlord policy).  There are commercial or specialty forms out there as well.  

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