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Anybody know of this new construction guru?


 No idea who it is,  but if you really want to learn construction and development I would say go back to college and learn construction management. 

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Would cost less money and time to do a mentorship than go back to college for 3 or 4 years n pay tuition.

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Quote from @Joshua Ocean:

Anybody know of this new construction guru?


 No idea who it is,  but if you really want to learn construction and development I would say go back to college and learn construction management. 


 And everybody listens to biggerpockets so we dont have to go to school bud. Anybody who says go back to college isnt an entrepreneur lol. Hello? 

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Joshua Ocean:

Anybody know of this new construction guru?


 No idea who it is,  but if you really want to learn construction and development I would say go back to college and learn construction management. 


 And everybody listens to biggerpockets so we dont have to go to school bud. Anybody who says go back to college isnt an entrepreneur lol. Hello? 


 guess going back to school during covid to start a fund and now have $50M aum in my own company is not an entrepreneur.

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Well u chose to do that. Most people are on BP to not go back to college. Didnt u get the memo?

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I bought the tickets to your convention, I have question, but can not fine a way contact you..What is the real deal here?

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I've seen Jerome Maldonado's stuff as well, as I'm digging into land entitlements and development and I started getting targeted with his course or group or whatever he has. No idea if it's any good, but he does appear at some of the bigger real estate events, so he's making money at something.

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I've seen Jerome Maldonado's stuff as well, as I'm digging into land entitlements and development and I started getting targeted with his course or group or whatever he has. No idea if it's any good, but he does appear at some of the bigger real estate events, so he's making money at something.


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I've seen Jerome Maldonado's stuff as well, as I'm digging into land entitlements and development and I started getting targeted with his course or group or whatever he has. No idea if it's any good, but he does appear at some of the bigger real estate events, so he's making money at something.


 Ya i got him from tai lopez and he is at a lot of other peoples cpnventions as well like ed mylett and all the big guys. Maybe hes the real deal. You gonna get his program?

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I don't think so, nothing against him, there's just too many programs out there. I wish there was a Bigger Pockets section for people to review all these programs! 

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I don't think so, nothing against him, there's just too many programs out there. I wish there was a Bigger Pockets section for people to review all these programs! 
Ya that would be nice. What kind of real estate are you wanting to do?

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Quote from @Joshua Ocean:

Anybody know of this new construction guru?


 No idea who it is,  but if you really want to learn construction and development I would say go back to college and learn construction management. 


 And everybody listens to biggerpockets so we dont have to go to school bud. Anybody who says go back to college isnt an entrepreneur lol. Hello? 


 guess going back to school during covid to start a fund and now have $50M aum in my own company is not an entrepreneur.

“They” continue to miss the point completely.
You go to school to SHORTEN the time it takes to become sufficiently knowledgeable about a topic.  True apprenticeships, while a great way for some, always take more time to reach the same knowledge level. 
What people misunderstand is that these “quick and fast” mentorship programs AT BEST offer incomplete information and provide only a minor portion of the knowledge necessary for long term success.  At worst they offer incorrect and damaging information costing the recepient loss of money and time, and in some cases leading to damages to the people the “mentored” are dealing with .
It is fashionable amongst those with limited formal edification to buy into the self servicing bs put forth by those selling the $20-40k programs that formal education is a waste of money and time, and actually may be harmful to your success. 
BUT, the proof is in the numbers, as high paying blue collar jobs have disappeared in the last 40 years, the gap between the earnings of those with extensive education and those with limited education is HUGE and growing.  
Further, we need to differentiate between the 4 year “liberal arts” degree and a focused college or grad school program specific to a career or business objective.  Also, nobodies claiming that you NEED a college degree to be successful; many have taken college courses at a very low cost thru Coursera  or EdX and and acquired the fundamental knowledge necessary to launch a successful business. 
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Quote from @Joshua Ocean:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Joshua Ocean:

Anybody know of this new construction guru?


 No idea who it is,  but if you really want to learn construction and development I would say go back to college and learn construction management. 


 And everybody listens to biggerpockets so we dont have to go to school bud. Anybody who says go back to college isnt an entrepreneur lol. Hello? 


 guess going back to school during covid to start a fund and now have $50M aum in my own company is not an entrepreneur.

“They” continue to miss the point completely.
You go to school to SHORTEN the time it takes to become sufficiently knowledgeable about a topic.  True apprenticeships, while a great way for some, always take more time to reach the same knowledge level. 
What people misunderstand is that these “quick and fast” mentorship programs AT BEST offer incomplete information and provide only a minor portion of the knowledge necessary for long term success.  At worst they offer incorrect and damaging information costing the recepient loss of money and time, and in some cases leading to damages to the people the “mentored” are dealing with .
It is fashionable amongst those with limited formal edification to buy into the self servicing bs put forth by those selling the $20-40k programs that formal education is a waste of money and time, and actually may be harmful to your success. 
BUT, the proof is in the numbers, as high paying blue collar jobs have disappeared in the last 40 years, the gap between the earnings of those with extensive education and those with limited education is HUGE and growing.  
Further, we need to differentiate between the 4 year “liberal arts” degree and a focused college or grad school program specific to a career or business objective.  Also, nobodies claiming that you NEED a college degree to be successful; many have taken college courses at a very low cost thru Coursera  or EdX and and acquired the fundamental knowledge necessary to launch a successful business. 

 not exactly an answer to this question.. but for me I learned construction by lending on it and ending up owning the projects when the developer or builder failed. And since we were the money we had the biggest risk so I dug in and built myself out of them first project I got my money back barely but that education on the job has led me to built 6 subdivisions from start to finish in the last 10 years and about 30 infills in Charleston SC from 500k to 2.5 mil each and my current project in Oregon of 90 homes from 700k to 1 mil.  I was forced into it.. but once I got it and knew who to hirer  IE a cracker jack GC and I controlled ALL the money we have done well. But I could not have done it had I not had a 25 year run with my commercial Banker.  So thats one way. and i would say the hard way :) And of course the market was super kind to us and continues to be at least in the Portland Metro area. Along with My wifes designing and doing all the marketing and finish's in the homes..  she has done an incredible job.. so you build a team. 

AS for paying for a guru course to learn new construction I agree with Don it can only scratch the surface.. If the student has a lot of money and a very healthy balance sheet and banking contacts that is as importnant if not more so than knowing the difference between a header and a joist or in what order you build the house in :)

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