Going to see some growth in 2014!

Going to see some growth in 2014!

Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2013 · 788 posts · 285 votes

In 2012 I bought a property for $20k cash, put $10k into rehab and it's renting for $925. I also bought a $21k property to flip, put $50k into rehab and sold for $90k.

In 2013, I was able to rent out my old primary residence. It isn't making any money, but it isn't losing either. I was also able to purchase a 3rd rental for $77k and it rents for $1200.

Now, I'm pretty much out of cash to purchase anything else, unless I get creative. Just got word today, I've been approved on a cash out refi of my 1st rental. It appraised for $60k and they will let me pull 75% out, at 5.5% for 30 years. They will also allow up to 10 loans and make loans as small as $25k with 20% down.

So now, I'm looking at some solid homes in B/C neighborhoods around $40k that will rent for around $900. My goal is to put the refi cash down on a couple properties in early 2014 and get them stabilized with renters. Then see what else is available after that.

I love that my initial $30k cash investment can be used to purchase 2 more properties, my ROI will go through the roof.

  • $30k cash
  • $900 x 3 = $2700/mo rents
  • 50% expenses = $1350/mo rents
  • PI @ 5.5% = $550
  • Cash flow = $800/mo x 12 = $9600 / $30k = 32% CoC

So, I'm looking at going from 3 to 6 rentals next year with no out of pocket cash. I'm super excited about the potential for next year. Which is funny, because I think the lender was more excited than I am. They were happy to see an investor with a good job, good 401k, good credit, looking at good cash flowing properties.

Now, its time to execute!

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  • Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2013 · 348 posts · 128 votes
    12y

    @Bryan H.

    This is awesome man! Those look like some killer properties. It's good to see another person from this area killing it. Hopefully, 2014 will be just as good to you.

  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2013 · 788 posts · 285 votes
    12y

    Thanks @Jacob A. I'm real happy I have a team set up back in Metro Detroit. I've looked around this area and I just can't find these types of returns. The market just didn't get hit like it did in Michigan.

  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2013 · 788 posts · 285 votes
    12y
    Hi Nick Keesee Homes in Eastpointe, north of 9 mile. I'm looking at 3 bed, 1 bath, garage, finished basement, a/c, brick homes at around $40k that will get $900. Madison Heights same thing, just less inventory. If you want to go up to $50k, you can get $900+ in St Clair Shores.
  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2013 · 788 posts · 285 votes
    12y
    Nick Keesee what about Redford? I don't know the area too well. But that may be an area that would work.
  • SFR Investor · Southfield, MI · Member since 2012 · 70 posts · 19 votes
    12y

    That is wonderful to hear @Bryan H. It's just awesome when a plan comes together. I received the same 10 loan info from my mortgage guy recently.

    Best of luck in the new year!

  • Rental Property Investor · Rochester Hills, MI · Member since 2011 · 61 posts · 26 votes
    12y

    South Redford will work with an all in (purchase plus rehab) price of 50-60k at $900 a month in rent. I generally wouldn't buy a rental in South Redford that rents for less than $1000 a month. At that point your looking at an all in price of 60-75k (depending on what your rehab standards are.)

    Most of our properties rent for $1000 up to $1200 so even at these prices- depending on your terms/interest rate- I think the returns are still pretty good.

    My partner and I own 35 properties in South Redford. Back in 2011 and Jan., Feb. or 2012 we picked up 16 rentals with roughly an all in purchase price of 40k- $1000-$1100 a month rent.

    For the rest of 2012 the all in number moved up to 45k. This past year we were up to 50-55k.

    I believe now the number is 60-65k and we have to get creative to find those deals. They're generally not on the mls.

    Anyway, come to South Redford- we need more Good Landlords there:)

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 744 votes
    12y
    I think 2014 will be an outstanding year to buy and rent out sense all the new laws will take effect, and I was told that 7 out of every 10 will not have an outstanding credit score to qualify for a loan so those need to rent somewhere, and everyone can think the government for their input.

    Joe Gore

  • Castlewood, VA · Member since 2012 · 177 posts · 57 votes
    12y

    @ Bryan H

    Would you mind passing along your lender for the cash out refi? I own a property in Southfield and have been considering pulling out 50-60% equity to buy another.

    @ me or PM me, whatever is more convenient for you.

    Matt

  • Real Estate Investor · atlanta, GA · Member since 2013 · 456 posts · 237 votes
    12y

    @Bryan H. - I'm confused are your rentals in NC or Detroit..or both? The first deals sounds like a gem but it also sounds like it's in Detroit. We see some deals in the 30s here but, like most, they are $30k rehabs. Most of what we are buying are all in for $50k to $80k and are producing net rents of $1,000 to $2,000 a month after all expenses. Happy Investing!

  • Real Estate Investor · Madison Heights, MI · Member since 2014 · 693 posts · 216 votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Andy Luick:
    @Bryan H. - I'm confused are your rentals in NC or Detroit..or both? The first deals sounds like a gem but it also sounds like it's in Detroit. We see some deals in the 30s here but, like most, they are $30k rehabs. Most of what we are buying are all in for $50k to $80k and are producing net rents of $1,000 to $2,000 a month after all expenses. Happy Investing!

    He's not IN Detroit. Just around it.

  • Real Estate Investor · Madison Heights, MI · Member since 2014 · 693 posts · 216 votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Bryan H.:
    Hi Nick Keesee Homes in Eastpointe, north of 9 mile. I'm looking at 3 bed, 1 bath, garage, finished basement, a/c, brick homes at around $40k that will get $900. Madison Heights same thing, just less inventory. If you want to go up to $50k, you can get $900+ in St Clair Shores.

    A brick 3/1/2 with finished basement in Madison Heights???????????? Sorry but that is not going to happen. I could not even sniff that at the tax auction last year. There are some deals out there but not that 3/1 bricks in the heights that don't need lots of work

  • Investor · Warren, MI · Member since 2013 · 25 posts · 2 votes
    12y
    Bryan H. I'm also curious to know who your lender is.
  • Developer · Decatur, GA · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    @Bryan H. That's great news. Congrats on getting the support from your bank.

    Best of luck with your continued success!

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