Obama Fiddled While the oil gushed out.

[Account Closed]

So why did his administration take 12 days to take the gulf oil spill seriously and do something?

I thought Obama was suppose to be an environmentally friendly president. Can you imagine if this happened during the Bush presidency?

Obama is a great campaigner and activist, but not too good at "governing". He will, loving a good crisis, try to make good poilitical mileage out of the spill.

TC

[J Scott]

Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:

BP has committed to the cleanup without reservations, but they have not admitted liability.

Agreed, they are most likely going to blame Transocean or one of the sub-contractors for causing the spill.

But, without accepting blame for causing it, they will no-doubt take all responsibility for the spill and the clean-up. Just the way things work...

Sounds like we agree on this one...just an issue of semantics ("liability" vs "responsibility")

[Eddie Ziv]

Originally posted by Tom Cullen:

Eddie Ziv, I'm just curious. Is there anything Bush could have done right in your opinion other than hang himself?

... I didn't think so

Actually yes. He did a wonderful job in the fight against aids,and malaria in Africa.
and to your other claims, here is the answer: Politifact is a non-partisan organization:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

[J Scott]

Originally posted by Tom Cullen:

Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:

Actually yes. He did a wonderful job in the fight against aids,and malaria in Africa

Bush really wasn't as bad as liberals claimed.

That's certainly one opinion...

[Rich Schroeder]

Originally posted by Tom Cullen:

Bush really wasn't as bad as liberals claimed.

TC

they miss him but won't admit it. :lol:

[J Scott]

Originally posted by rich23s:

they miss him but won't admit it.

I admit that I miss him...I don't laugh nearly as much these days as I did when he was President...

But, I take solace in the fact that all I have to do is jump on YouTube, and I can get all the laughs I'll ever need...in fact, I need a laugh right now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A&feature=related

[J Scott]

Originally posted by Tom Cullen:

Watched Glenn Beck today and he mentioned that fact, first scooped by Tim W in an earlier post, that it was Ocean Drilling (symbol: RIG) that owned and leased to BP the oil platform that sank.

Is this a serious post?

First, it's Transocean that owns the rig, not "Ocean Drilling"...

Second, do you really think that Tim W broke the news before anyone else that Transocean owned the rig and that BP didn't?

You're kidding right?

Here's one of thousands of news stories from the day it happened that clearly indicates that Transocean owns the rig:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/deepwaterhorizon/6968685.html

Tim was talking about something completely different, and it was 13 days later...

But yeah, I'm sure Glenn Beck is scouring Tim's posts for info about the oil spill... :roll:

Wow.

[Eddie Ziv]

Oh, so many moments... So little time....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5skcF6Kljtw&feature=related

[Eddie Ziv]

For those who rush to blame Obama's admin for all the problems in the world including the oil disaster in the gulf of Mexico, here is some truth originated two years ago by Bush Administration:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_blowout_plan

[Rich Schroeder]

Originally posted by J Scott:

Originally posted by rich23s:

they miss him but won't admit it.

I admit that I miss him...I don't laugh nearly as much these days as I did when he was President...

But, I take solace in the fact that all I have to do is jump on YouTube, and I can get all the laughs I'll ever need...in fact, I need a laugh right now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A&feature=related

You must, then get all sorts of laughs from Biden and all of Barry's communist and marxist friends. That's funny stuff right there. I think they're going on a 58 state tour, ending in Guam.

[J Scott]

Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:

For those who rush to blame Obama's admin for all the problems in the world including the oil disaster in the gulf of Mexico, here is some truth originated two years ago by Bush Administration:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_blowout_plan

Looks like Tim was right...

Clearly BP is in bed with the government...but it's not just this administration...

Likely, it's been all the administrations...

[Rich Schroeder]

Originally posted by J Scott:

Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:

For those who rush to blame Obama's admin for all the problems in the world including the oil disaster in the gulf of Mexico, here is some truth originated two years ago by Bush Administration:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_blowout_plan

Looks like Tim was right...

Clearly BP is in bed with the government...but it's not just this administration...

Likely, it's been all the administrations...

I would put Bush right on top of that list.

[Carlton Ellis]

Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:

Originally posted by J Scott:

Yes, and had you read my next sentence, I go on to say that BP is responsible for the oil, the well and the clean-up. Even BP admits this, regardless of who is at fault.

BP has committed to the cleanup without reservations, but they have not admitted liability. I made the mistake of assigning liability to BP too early in another conversation on Facebook before looking deeper. Of course BP will commit today to the cleanup. Every oil company of any sort has cleanup reserves set aside for something like this. That's the priority. On the other hand, tomorrow will begin a bit of research into liability and subrogation. Then you'll find out who's really responsible despite all the rhetoric of today.

Did you watch "60 Minutes" on Sunday night? A worker on the Deep Horizon stated that the managers on the rig for Transocean were clearly overruled by managers from BP on several issues that impacted the safety of the drilling operation and sealing the well. I'm not saying that Transocean bears no liability. But if BP contracted Transocean for their rig and BP managers did in fact overrule Transocean managers in ways that impacted safety for the sake of expediency then BP definitely bears some liability for what happened.

I'm eager to here more about the events that actually led up to the explosion from other sources. But this looks like a classic case where safety took a back seat to profits.