If you carry a gun

[Timothy W.]

I found this and had to share. It is a lifetime of info in 30-40 minutes.

This is not a debate for or against the merits of carrying a gun. This is for the consideration of "what next" if you do decide to take on carrying a gun. There has been discussion after discussion on both sides of the issue of carrying a gun. While that's fine, you need to understand something further.

Carrying a gun is not the end of the story. It is only the very beginning. You need to consider what is going to happen should you ever have to draw that gun from your holster or bag. The following is a 4 part presentation by Massad Ayoob on knowing when it ok and when it is not ok to draw your firearms and use it. Amongst many things, Mas is a career police officer who dedicates hundreds of hours to teaching non-police civilians their legal rights and responsibilities as gun owners. I directly consulted him when I chose the handgun I carry today. It is smart to carry a gun in some circumstances, but it brings with it huge responsibilities. This is a good lecture to listen to.

Don't turn this into a debate, please. This is purely informational for those who have made a decision to legally carry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW_xaTf5oqI

[Timothy W.]

Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:

I will respect Tim's request and not elaborate on it.

Thank you. Back to topic (moneypenny, please respect this as well even though you and I may agree).

Eddie carried his uzi as part of his military service required of all citizens of Israel. Military service and police service are under different rules that don't really apply to this discussion. Eddie could open up full auto on someone under previously determined orders without establishing some of the ground rules that civilians are subject to. You have to apply the civilian rules you choose to live under by virtue of the location you live in. I can bring my gun to church and to bars (not that there's any correlation :lol: ), but not to a convention center where I live. This is not the case in other states.

I'm not an attorney and am not giving legal advice. In Illinois as it was explained to me by a friend who's an officer, except for the city of Chicago if it's an ungrandfathered handgun, I can't carry a firearm anywhere except on my property and place of business. What this means is as a landlord I can drive to my rental property with my gun unloaded and in a case designed for use as a firearm case, separate from ammunition and when I get to my property, when I get on my property I can load my gun and carry it on my property.

The reason nit picking this info is important is if you are carrying a weapon illegally (even if by accident) and use it in self defense or secondary defense (defending someone else) and kill someone - it was explained to me that you have opened yourself up to not only to manslaughter but potentially felony murder. I could shoot Charles Manson dead as he's standing over a girl with a chainsaw ready to cut her in half and potentially be a felon if I didn't follow weapons laws in the process of carrying my gun. Stay legal.