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Building 2 - LTR - 39% annual return on value of building!
BUILDING TWO
A) Previously I posted a projection for a $135,000 pair of townhomes (BUILDING 1), which came to about 34% annual return on the value of the building when rented as a nicely furnished pair of townhomes. It is my belief that STR is a fools errand in most parts of the country and getting worse each year as more lemmings jump into STRs. These townhomes are in a small tourist town.
B) Now I am posting a projection for a MFH (5 apartments, 2 commercial spaces). The building itself cost me $280,000. The raw rent for the 7 spaces is approximately $85,000. The 5 apartments (See below for my LTR to STR calculations) adjust to approx $90,000 (no PM) to total $110,000 for the building. Or a 39% annual return on the entire building.
And each year, there is more STR competition and less LTR competition here. The belief that STR is 2-3X LTR income is a complete fantasy, IMO.
CONVERTING STR TO LTR INCOME FOR ONE UNIT (MY TOWN)
Airbnb & VRBO estimated my earnings from a 2 BR 1 BA apartment around $17,000 annually. Using my STR to LTR converter (credit card fee, self-employment tax, software, OTA fee, paying heat/power and wifi, higher insurance cost, linens, coffee setups, much worse if PM, etc etc) which I say is 25-30% minimum. With PM at an additional 30%, it is terrible
--> then $17,000 becomes about ... A) $12,000 without ... B) $9000 with a PM.
--> i am renting the same as a furnished apartment (LTR) for $225 a week which is almost $12,000
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Hey @Ken Latchers, I am not trying to be rude here or disrespectful. I do appreciate that info and I think it is great for you, but you seem to be on a mission to just keep poking all STR owners in the eye with nearly every post.
We are all just lemmings. It's crazy to do long distance management. On and on. I guess I just would like to know what you are trying to prove. I get it that you are doing some cool stuff and I applaud your success, but you seem to come to the STR forum to show us all how we are wrong to do what we are doing.