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Jeremy H.
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Thoughts on STR property "appreciation" in vacation markets?

Jeremy H.
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lafayette, LA
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What do you all think of the insane "appreciation" of STR type units in popular vacation areas...think anyplace with a beach, smoky mountains etc. Crazy to look at the prices from 5-6 months ago and see a 20%+ increase in the asking price. Places that were selling for 290-350K are now asking 450k+. I have several LTRs where I live and was looking to get into the STR market. But I see some crazy price "appreciation" along with interest rates that are several points higher than what we saw 6 months ago...and it has me wondering if it makes sense right now. I'm sure deals are still out there, but a year or two ago you could've bought any STR, just about, and cashflowed it nicely (I was starting in RE about a year and a half ago - have a duplex, fourplex and 2 SFHs). I believe it's still early in the market for STR rentals overall, and these prices may go up. But at the same time I'd hate to be caught holding the bag on an "overpriced" property. What are your thoughts on the STR market and these high prices? Do you see these prices coming down in the near term or just leveling and seeing a slower appreciation?

I wouldn't mind still getting a STR but with more LTR cashflow. Although I think the risk level with STRs is much higher financially.
 

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Ryan Moyer
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Ryan Moyer
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I see many respected people and analist say this is the new normal and not a price bubble. So if you wait house prices and interest rates will likely be higher. The demand is still heavily outweighing supply. Even if we have a slowdown as most are predicting, people will still go to popular, drivable vacation destinations.

So if the numbers work at current levels then you should be fine if you buy the right property in the right location.

 They were saying the exact same thing about work from home stocks 6 months ago.  It's a new world.  Everyone is going to be riding their Peletons into Zoom meetings before they log off to watch Netflix, sign their contracts on Docusign, and their kids remote learn on Chegg while they go shopping on Shopify website and ordering dinner through Doordash.

Many of the work from home stocks are down NINETY percent.  The good ones are "only" down 50-70% as they all keep dropping earnings report after earnings report that signal that all that monster growth in and coming out of the pandemic was more temporary rather than a change in the world.

I'm not saying it will happen in the travel industry, but a lot of people took their annual vacation 4 times in 2021, they booked later than is normal, they worked on the road more often than people will put up with long-term (especially in terms of cost), etc.

Home values are not going to fall 50% but travel trends, especially in certain markets that people were forced to travel to during Covid, could.  It's more plausible than people realize.

I'm not saying people shouldn't buy, just that people need to be aware of the risk and leverage accordingly.  The euphoric "just buy anything that makes sense based on Covid numbers" we see in real estate investor groups is the EXACT same stuff I was seeing in equity investing groups last year.  Real estate always wins in the long run, but just make sure you're not going to be in severe trouble if bookings drop by 20-50% from 2021 numbers for a little while.  Again, it's a lot more plausible than people realize.

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