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What to include in rent
So I am looking to put my apartment for rent in the coming weeks and I scooped out my competition in the area and they’re all not including utilities and other fees in their rent. I went to several of them and it turned out the extra fees would be 200-300 on top of what they had it listed at. To me that seems dishonest and I want to at least include the hoa fee in the rent. Should I copy others and slap those fees on after or list it all at once?
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That's not sketchy at all. Think about it, should the landlord include the tenant's cell phone bill and car insurance in the rent? Utilities are the responsibility of the people using them.
Why should the landlord list their rental $200-300 dollars higher then the actual rent is? You will drastically reduce your tenant pool because all people see is the "number" not what's included in that number.