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Jon S.
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Immediate Right of Entry to Exterior Yards, Fenced Yards?

Jon S.
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
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Do Landlords have immediate right of entry to exterior yards, including fenced yards, to take care of the grounds, water the plants, do yard work, without providing advance notice, or without providing any notice, to Tenants? 

I just planted extensive and expensive foliage at a triplex and the plants need daily watering now, and every other day watering for a few months. I can't trust tenants to do it, so I have to have access and do it myself until they have settled in, which takes 6 months. I'm writing a lease and including a clause in the Additional Stipulations section, as follows:

"LANDLORD has immediate right of entry from 9AM to 9PM to the exterior premises, including fenced yards, for watering plants, yard care, gardening, and grounds maintenance, without prior notice to TENANT."

I don't know if this is legal. Is this acceptable? Legal? 

Thanks

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    Account Closed
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    Originally posted by @Jon S.:

    @Account Closed

    Thank you for explaining that to me. Wow, there is a lot online about  "Right to Quiet Enjoyment". 

    It's a partially occupied triplex that is about to become fully occupied. The current tenants haven't minded our visiting to water plants, and in fact love the new landscaping and greet us and offer us coffee. So maybe I'm trying to create a clause for incoming tenants and making a problem out of something that hasn't been a problem? 

     I think landlords often misunderstand cooperation for enjoyment of their company.  I'm sure you're a really nice landlord and that they do like the new landscaping.  And maybe they're lonely and like company that drops by unannounced.

    But, as a landlord, you are in a position of power.  You are the guy who can decide to raise the rent or kick them out. Can they afford to tell you to quit coming around so much?

    Try thinking about being in their shoes.  Would you want your loan officer to feel he/she has the right to drop by at any time of the day or night?  Or from 9am to 9pm 7 days a week?  

    Now pretend that loan officer, if he doesn't like you, can take your loan away in 12 months, or change the terms of the loan after 12 months, if he doesn't think you are cooperative or have an attitude, etc.

    You are not on equal footing with your tenants in the friendly, neighborly sense.  They have the power to choose to get mad at their neighbors or friends without losing their housing.

    It's just not the same.  

    And, they're probably afraid you're going to raise the rent.  That's what usually happens when lots of improvements start happening.  So, they're probably really afraid, and maybe hoping to shmooze you a little with coffee.

    But, imagine being an applicant to rent a place and the landlord puts before you a contract that says he has the right to enter their fenced yard any day of the week from 9am -9pm.  Would that sound great to you?

    And even if it was just the grounds out front of the building, it would be super intrusive to live with your landlord in your front yard constantly.

    If it was me, I'd never sign it and I'd keep looking, honestly.  Even a version that said you'd "only" be there for 2 hours every day, etc.  I would not move into a place where my landlord was in my yard all the time.

    And if I moved into a place and the landlord was even in my front yard all the time, I'd move.

    I am particular about my privacy and I want a landlord who understands that this is my home.  I'm not a serf on his property.  I rent the entire space that is included in my rental contract, and have the right to "own" that space as if it was my own property - within reasonable exceptions that I agree to (like occasional inspections or agreeing to not paint the walls a different color or put in a swimming pool, etc.).

    I know you're trying to get the place in great shape, etc.  I would just like to encourage you to get into your tenants' shoes a bit, and imagine what it's like to be them living in your units.  

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