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James Taylor
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Property Manager in Cleveland

James Taylor
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York City, NY
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Hello everyone,

Does anybody have a good property management company to recommend in Cleveland Ohio, which you have used at least for the last 2 years?.

I reached my limit in patience with my actual propriety management company after only one year of “service”. I thought because they are part of a big county-wide brand, they would be good. I am so disappointed for getting constantly, one after another, surprises with unexpected large ticket expenses, or expensive “ rent ready requirements after township inspections and getting the same answer “ well that is not uncommon for this area” well if it is not that uncommon then why not consider that in the “ rent ready quotes” or at least provide a heads-up for these potential additional expensive turnover costs? which by the way, can hit you twice on the same property before you can rent it out.

I only have three SFH over there, and all three have gone through similar challenges.

Thank you

James Taylor

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    Drew Sygit
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    Drew Sygit
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    @James Taylor most big companies are outsourcing to foreign staff, without proper training and procedures.

    Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

    We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!

    Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!

    In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

    It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

    Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!

    So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

    EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

    This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

    The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

    We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

    We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

    We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

    EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

    P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊

    Please send us any feedback via email, as we do not use the DM feature here.
    Also, if you like our response, please don’t be shy about giving us a vote😊

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