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All Forum Posts by: Drew Sygit

Drew Sygit has started 37 posts and replied 8368 times.

Post: Flat Rate vs. Percentage Based Managment Fee

Drew Sygit
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Have always wondered how PMCs with flat fee Tenant Placement work with other agents via MLS?

Have heard some PMC's allegedly offer other agents a ridiculously small amount like $200. 

Agents here in our Metro Detroit market would be insulted by such a low amount and would bad-mouth us to no end.

Guessing flat rate Placement Fee means only advertised on PMC website and the Zillow triad?

If so, what happens when DOM spikes?

Post: Community Living Arrangements: The Next Big Thing in Real Estate?

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We'll see more and more old malls converted to this.

Post: Fix Flip in GA

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What do you have in funds and experience?

Post: 1031 Cash Flow investor

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Post: I need to change strategies. What should I do?

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@Ivan Castanon

Can’t find a rental property to cashflow?

You’re probably thinking you have to offer asking price – not true!

To determine what to offer on a rental property:

  • Determine reasonable market rent, NOT the highest!
  • Deduct NEW property taxes after you buy
  • Deduct home insurance costs
  • Deduct maintenance percentage, typically 10%
  • Deduct vacancy+tenant nonperformance percentage
    (we recommend 5% for Class A, 10% Class B, 20% Class C, good luck with Class D)
  • Deduct whatever dollar/percentage of cashflow you want

Now, what you have left over is the amount for debt service.

Enter it into a mortgage calculator, with current interest rate for an investment property, to determine your maximum mortgage amount.

Divide the mortgage amount by either 75% or 80%, depending on the required down payment percentage - this is your tentative price to offer.

If the property needs repairs, you'll want to deduct 110%-120% of the estimated repairs from this amount.

Be sure to also research the ARV and make sure it's 10-20% higher than your tentative purchase price.

As long as the ARV checks out, this is the purchase price to offer.

It is probably significantly below the asking price. Who cares? If you pay more, you won't meet your metrics and will probably have negative cashflow and/or equity.

You may have to make 10, 20 or even 100 offers to get one accepted at the price that meets your numbers.

This is what all investors did BEFORE the Great Real Estate Crash of 2008-2010.

Post: Looking to start investing in LTR,

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@Jason Weidmann admire your all-in approach!

Too bad you can't buy something owner-occupied, put 5% down with the best interest rate, live in it for 12 months (and fix it up), rent it out and repeat the cycle.

Here's some other info you might find useful:

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Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location to invest in.

Property Class will typically dictate the Class of tenant you get, which greatly IMPACTS rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

If you apply Class A assumptions to a Class B or C purchase, your expectations won’t be met and it may be a financial disaster.

If you buy/renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what quality of tenant will you get?

Similarly, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A 4-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

So, when investing in areas they don’t really know, investors should research the different property Class submarkets.

Here’s our OPINION for the Metro Detroit market (use as a template for your target area!) that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:

Class A Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.
Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.

Class B Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.
Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 years

Class C Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation. Can try to reposition to Class B, but neighborhood may impede these efforts.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, but 15-20% should be used to also cover tenant nonpayment, eviction costs & damages.
Tenant Pool: majority will have FICO scores of 560-620 (approaching 22% probability of default), many blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 2 years. Verifying last 2 years of rental history very important! Also, focus on 2 years of job/income stability.

Class D Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation
Vacancy Est: 20%+ should be used to cover nonpayment, evictions & damages.
Tenant Pool: majority will have FICO scores under 560 (almost 30% probability of default), little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, recent evictions. Verifying last 2 years of rental history and income extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.

Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

The City of Detroit has 183 Neighborhoods we’ve analyzed.

DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!

Post: Stuck in analysis paralysis and in the military

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Do NOT buy anything from the Detroit Land Bank!

We're not aware of anyone that's made a purchase from them work in over 3 years:(

Most of the incentives in Detroit are targeted to owners that will live in their home or developers targeting large projects.

Post: New Investor Looking to Connect in CT

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Post: Property Management Insurance

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@Marlena Hawkins hey @Russell Brazil can you answer this?

Post: First time investor needing some confidence!

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@Benjamin Ying

1) Waste of time unless you are buying hundreds of units.

2) Any option to minimize risk is usually a good idea.

3) Always better to visit an area before investing. You may not need to visit each property you buy in that area though.

4) Unless you are buying Class A turnkey, you should have a PMC.

5) See below copy & paste info:

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Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location to invest in.

Property Class will typically dictate the Class of tenant you get, which greatly IMPACTS rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

If you apply Class A assumptions to a Class B or C purchase, your expectations won’t be met and it may be a financial disaster.

If you buy/renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what quality of tenant will you get?

Similarly, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A 4-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

So, when investing in areas they don’t really know, investors should research the different property Class submarkets.

Here’s our OPINION for the Metro Detroit market (use as a template for your target area!) that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:

Class A Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.
Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.

Class B Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.
Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 years

Class C Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation. Can try to reposition to Class B, but neighborhood may impede these efforts.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, but 15-20% should be used to also cover tenant nonpayment, eviction costs & damages.
Tenant Pool: majority will have FICO scores of 560-620 (approaching 22% probability of default), many blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 2 years. Verifying last 2 years of rental history very important! Also, focus on 2 years of job/income stability.

Class D Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation
Vacancy Est: 20%+ should be used to cover nonpayment, evictions & damages.
Tenant Pool: majority will have FICO scores under 560 (almost 30% probability of default), little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, recent evictions. Verifying last 2 years of rental history and income extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.

Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

The City of Detroit has 183 Neighborhoods we’ve analyzed.

DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!