Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Tax, SDIRAs & Cost Segregation
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 4 years ago on . Most recent reply

Account Closed
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New Braunfels, TX
103
Votes |
141
Posts

Husband and Wife each have their own SDIRA

Account Closed
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New Braunfels, TX
Posted

I've already contacted 2 custodians on this matter and one says it's ok and the other says contact a CPA or lawyer. I've reached out to both but figured I'd ask here too.  I know it's a confusing subject so I'll try to illustrate it below. We haven't done this yet, just trying to make sure we don't do anything that is considered a prohibited transaction.

A) Brother's SDIRA and Sister's SDIRA buy rental property A together. This is not a prohibited transaction. 

B) Brother's SDIRA and Brother-in-Laws (Sister's husband) SDIRA buy rental property B together. This is not a prohibited transaction.

I know that we can do either A or B alone and it would be ok. But the question is can we do both A and B as long as the husband and wife's SDIRA's are not involved in the same property together with the brother's SDIRA?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

17,848
Posts
6,240
Votes
Dmitriy Fomichenko
#1 New Member Introductions Contributor
  • Solo 401k Expert
  • Anaheim Hills, CA
6,240
Votes |
17,848
Posts
Dmitriy Fomichenko
#1 New Member Introductions Contributor
  • Solo 401k Expert
  • Anaheim Hills, CA
Replied
Originally posted by @John Underwood:

My understanding is that almost anyone can partner on a deal. You can even partner with you and your IRA. You just have to keep everything split equally based on the level of investment. There are prohibited transactions to keep in mind and be aware of.

Not quite... In fact, partnering with your IRA can be considered a "prohibited transaction" in many cases. You are considered to be "disqualified person" to your IRA. IRS rules prohibited any direct or indirect benefit for such person from his/her retirement account, and as such you are not allowed to furnish any service, goods or facilities to your 401k:

https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-particip...

While in some instances it might be possible to get into an investment together with a disqualified person you must be very careful! In my experience dealing with thousands of clients and reviewing many potential transactions involving disqualified person the end result was a prohibited transaction. You also must remember that while in the beginning transaction might be structured in compliance with the rules there is always likelihood of it leading to prohibited transaction in the future because of disqualified person's involvement.

Once you have your personal funds and IRA funds in the same deal you are now opening a "can of worms" and the burden falls on you as the tax payer to proof that there are no personal benefits from your use of the IRA funds, and IRA did not benefit from the use of your personal funds. In most cases that is exactly why the IRA account holder wanted to partner. I would recommend agains it!

  • Dmitriy Fomichenko
  • (949) 228-9393
business profile image
Sense Financial Services LLC
4.9 stars
166 Reviews

Loading replies...