Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Tax, SDIRAs & Cost Segregation
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 3 years ago on . Most recent reply

Account Closed
89
Votes |
70
Posts

401K Conversion to Roth

Account Closed
Posted

Last year I converted an old 401k of mine into a Self Directed 401k and used that to buy and refurbish a few properties and now the monthly income is very nice and I sleep at night knowing I'm not overly reliant on the stock market.

As I think forward to retirement, I've read several articles about taxation and the goal of keeping taxable income low enough to avoid paying taxes on up to 85% of your Social Security.  With that is the advise to convert existing standard 401k's to ROTH 401k's so you will have the flexibility to determine your taxable income each year and control your taxes.  To do this, however, you have to pay taxes on the conversion at your top rate.  

For example let's assume my top rate is 24% and I wanted to convert 300,000 it would cost me about 72,000 in taxes to convert a 300,000 401k taxable instrument into a 300,000 non-taxable instrument.  


So is it worth it?  Should I take that 72,000 and invest it elsewhere in hopes it would yield more than the tax savings on a 300,000 tax free investment?  Does the anticipation of a looming recession change the logic on a move like this?  

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

2,072
Posts
1,382
Votes
Carl Fischer
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ambler, PA
1,382
Votes |
2,072
Posts
Carl Fischer
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ambler, PA
Replied

@Account Closed

Move from forever taxed to never taxed as soon as possible and as fast as possible. I believe it is worth it to convert. I also believe you will pay more than $72k in taxes without some conversion strategies in place. Check with your cpa to be sure. What is your rate of return? Your age? Future income? And do you think taxes are going up or down? What is your break even point? 
investigate strategies to lower your taxes for conversions. 

  • Carl Fischer
  • [email protected]
  • 215-283-2868
  • Loading replies...