buying investments like stocks

buying investments like stocks

Philly Area, PA · Member since 2008 · 297 posts · 27 votes

I've been brainstorming as of late on how to come up with cash for the 20% needed by banks for investing.

I thought the following might be a good ideal, hopefully someone has done this before and can shoot holes in my ideal.

You identify a property, which you purchase at a wholesale price that way there is equity right off the bat. My ideal is set the property up like a corporation with investors.

For example you have a 15 apt complex you want to purchase, but need a $100,000 for the 20% down. You would sell rights (stocks) to an investor who would put up the 20%, who would receive a certain return or maybe 10% back after 3 years.

Obviously you would own the majority of the stock, that way you can own the property and are in control of it.

My question is has anyone ever done this? If so is it legal? I mean corporations always sell stocks to raise money or start a IPO. Let me know what you think. Thanks

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  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
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    If you create a corporation you can certainly do an IPO to raise money. There are federal and state regulations about how you can do that. Not something that you can just do on your own without significant legal help.

    You can certainly create an LLC and sell units in the LLC. I've been involved in a deal that was exactly done like this. A bunch of us, about 30, bought into the deal. That was the down payment and then the LLC got a loan for the remaining amount.

    You get into trouble if you start guaranteeing specific returns. Advertising can get you in trouble, too.

    No, you don't obviously control the majority of the stock. You could easily end up with a minority stake. You may be the manager, though, and get paid a management fee.

    So, your deal might be structured as an LLC with 10 members. Each buys a unit for $15K. Maybe you buy one, too. That gives you $150K. You buy a property for $500K, with a $100K down payment. Each member owns 10% of the LLC. You're the manager, so you make the decisions about what to do on a day to day basis. You collect a management fee, which is an expense to the LLC. Or, maybe you collect a salary from the LLC. The net income of the LLC gets distributed to each of the members.

    Non-trivial stuff. You need good legal and accounting advice to set up something like this.

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