Re-financing strategy

Re-financing strategy

Verdun, Quebec · Member since 2013 · 5 posts · 0 votes

Hey all

I've heard people do re-financing quite often and was wondering if this was a viable strategy

Basically what I am thinking of doing is - and keep in mind I'm currently un-employed, living in Canada but wanting to invest in the US and have no money in my pockets to invest in anything

So:
1- finding a property below value with a motivated seller and all that
2- finding a lender who would lend 100% of the deal for 6-12 months
3- refinance the property and pay back the lender

This is a really simplified version of what I thought of doing so I guess my next question is how doable is this?

1 is pretty straight forward but 2 and 3 I haven't had experience with that yet
How realistic is it to find a lender that not only would lend 100% but also for 6-12 months
Also, how strict is the 6-12 month "seasoning" rule - like if I own the property for 6 months would a bank even look at my case and want to re-finance me knowing that I am in Canada and un-employed?

Thanks guys - I'm still in the process of trying to learn all this stuff so any comment is helpful

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Don KonipolBusiness Member
Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
12y

Quite frankly I know of no one that will lend money to an unemployed investor with no experience and no capital, let alone lend 100% of purchase price.

Your chances of your #1, finding a below value property with a motivated seller and being able to get it under contract are slim to none.

Your chances of #2 and #3 are none.

You need to establish experience, capital, and income before you invest. Typically, property purchased with no down payment has negative cash flow that must be fed every month.

Get a good nights sleep and stay away from the gurus on late night TV infomercials!

Private Mortgage Financing Partners, LLC
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  • Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2014 · 84 posts · 52 votes
    12y

    Hey @Cristian Petrescu from what I know (and I'm admittedly very weak comparatively when it comes to financing information) you would still need to show income and be approved on the refi. It might be a little easier if you've made good payments on it for awhile, but they usually still want to see income to prove you can pay it long term. If you can even find someone to lend 100% (no skin from you = unlikely) they will want an arm and a leg, probably prohibitively expensive. They'll want an absurd amount of "points" or "closing fees" as well as an insanely high APR. If it is interest only, that can be workable. All I can say is be open about your whole plan with anyone you're looking to do business with and they can usually advise you on the best approach if it is possible.

  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    12y

    Quite frankly I know of no one that will lend money to an unemployed investor with no experience and no capital, let alone lend 100% of purchase price.

    Your chances of your #1, finding a below value property with a motivated seller and being able to get it under contract are slim to none.

    Your chances of #2 and #3 are none.

    You need to establish experience, capital, and income before you invest. Typically, property purchased with no down payment has negative cash flow that must be fed every month.

    Get a good nights sleep and stay away from the gurus on late night TV infomercials!

    Private Mortgage Financing Partners, LLC
  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    12y

    hypothetically, you could get a private money loan at 15% for the first 6 months... but they still need to approve and qualify you. The next problem is going to be the refi. you will be able to use 75/5 of the rent to qualify for the loan - but since you will not live there they max they will finance is 75/% so unless your property increases by that much after 6 months you will need the difference to cover the 25% and I doubt you will get that in cash flow in 6 months

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