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Seller-financed, 7 year amortization

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I took part in a deal in South Florida where the seller financed his home at a steep discount to the appraisal value, in exchange for the right to live there for a few more years. The purchase price will be paid in annual installments over 7 years, 0% interest. The result is an annual cash payment of 90k directly to the seller. I make the annual installment with cash flow from other properties and some w2 income. I owe 405k and the property is worth 1.2M, according to the most recent appraisal. 

Coming up with the annual installment has become a little painful, as I am working a w2 that I would otherwise step away from. The whole rent-back situation is unconventional. I'm looking for ways to reduce my annual outlay of cash, even if i have to give up some equity, and get back to "normal" investing. 

What's the solution? Cash-out refi?

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I took part in a deal in South Florida where the seller financed his home at a steep discount to the appraisal value, in exchange for the right to live there for a few more years. The purchase price will be paid in annual installments over 7 years, 0% interest. The result is an annual cash payment of 90k directly to the seller. I make the annual installment with cash flow from other properties and some w2 income. I owe 405k and the property is worth 1.2M, according to the most recent appraisal. 

Coming up with the annual installment has become a little painful, as I am working a w2 that I would otherwise step away from. The whole rent-back situation is unconventional. I'm looking for ways to reduce my annual outlay of cash, even if i have to give up some equity, and get back to "normal" investing. 

What's the solution? Cash-out refi?

This is an example of a bad deal based on bad terms.  What you did was the same thing as if you bought a business with assets valued at $1.2M with the payments at $90k spread out over the next 7 years.
Trouble is, the business is only making $20k/year, so you'd be operating as a $70k loss/year...for the next 7 years.  Your rational is you have personal income and other business that can cover you.  Unfortunately, the new business went bankrupt in 5 years, and your wife divorced you.

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