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Updated over 5 years ago,
My OOS management company tried to defraud me (how I caught them)
Hello everyone, I'm posting this in hopes that other investors can learn from my experience. Luckily everything seems to be resolved, thanks to the big boss of the management company.
I'm an OOS investor and slowly started exploring other property management options. I arrived in person at the subject property (small multifamily) as one of the units was currently vacant. Over several days I met with other property managers, began to clean the unit, and generally get a "feel" for living in the unit. For instance, the bathroom door knob was backwards, thereby able to lock someone IN the bathroom. This would probably go un-noticed if not for actually residing in the unit for a few days.
The decision was made to respectfully part ways with my current management company. I emailed them a termination and received among the response.
"management fees through end of new lease for a total of $1650." - this was for the vacant unit I was currently cleaning etc..
This was surprising considering I wasn't previously notified of any lease, any prospective lease, any Section 8 inspections etc..
I spoke with a representative of the management company on the phone and asked for a copy of the new lease, of which they refused. Their reasons were..
1) They never sent me a copy of the lease for previous tenants, so why should they have to send me one now..
2) I've worked with them for years and they're disappointed I'm asking for a lease..
As a property owner, I'm entitled to see the terms in which my property is rented. I demanded to speak with their attorney. Of course they refused. A had a feeling there was no lease (duh).
I emailed them to formally ask for a copy of the lease agreement for the vacant unit. Then I asked to speak with the rogue property manager's boss. Once I spoke to him it became apparent there was no lease. He was a great help throughout the process.
After speaking with him, the original employee emailed me (with the boss on copy) stating there was not an executed lease.
They did in fact have a prospective tenant in mind that had put down some money to "hold" the unit, the rogue employee represented this was actually a "lease". I'm chalking this up as a learning experience and resolving to be MUCH more hands on with my OOS rentals. Running it less like a cool, hands off "passive income" stream and more like a business that I watch over constantly.
Does anyone have similar experiences? I'm wondering how common this is..