Need help finding a specific podcast episode

[Nicole Heasley Beitenman]

There was an episode of the BP podcast YEARS ago where the investor was borrowing against life insurance to invest. It might have been back to the Brandon/Josh days. As they described it, the principal of the insurance earning interest wasn't diminished by the loan like, say, a 401k loan would be. So a $100k policy with a $50k loan against it still earned interest on the whole $100k, whereas a $100k 401k account with a $50k loan against it only earns interest on that remaining $50k until the loan is repaid. I tried searching for "life insurance," "life insurance loan," etc, but even after narrowing it to podcast results, I'm not finding the episode. Anyone else that's been listening as long as I have out there who can remember which episode I'm thinking of?