Real Estate Investing and Traditional Financial Planning

Real Estate Investing and Traditional Financial Planning

Brady MullenPro Member
Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 61 posts · 100 votes

I spend a lot of time thinking about how to apply my financial background (18 years as an independent financial advisor) to the choices we all must make about real estate.

I'm talking about choices like renting vs owning, investing in real estate, upsizing, downsizing, reverse mortgages (these are one of the most overlooked and misunderstood financial tools out there), refinancing, owning a 2nd home, etc.

I regularly offer continuing education courses to real estate agents about finance and real estate, and when it comes to investing in real estate, an odd thing surfaces quite often that I think is worth elaborating on.

I'm convinced that real estate investing provides better returns, on average, than other common investment options. It's hard to come to any other conclusion when you account for all the different ways in which it is accretive to personal wealth, such as appreciation, income, leverage (when used), and tax benefits.

When you quantify that and calculate the returns (not exactly easy to do), they are usually pretty impressive. 

The odd thing that happens when I share this topic with real estate agents is that it's tempting to interpret what I'm saying as "investing in real estate is BETTER than investing in other things", and this is an oversimplification of what I’m getting at.

Real estate investing isn't for everyone. And it is not proper to compare it to investing in mutual funds or ETF's or the like.

Here's the thing, investing in real estate is more like purchasing a franchise. It's like owning a small business. It's not passive. You could hire a property manager to help, but it's like hiring a manager for your small business - it does help simplify and scale, but it doesn't mean you can turn your back.

On the other hand, while owning a traditional portfolio (I'm generally a fan of the low fee index-style models) is passive, you also have no control over how those businesses are run. The only control you have is whether to own it or not.

Although real estate isn't passive, in return you have more control (and responsibility), which isn't what everyone is after. But if you're willing to learn the ropes, it's incredibly rewarding.

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Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
3y

@Brady Mullen I think this is spot on. I consider my rental properties to be just like any small service business. It is the best deal ever. My wife and I get paid every month and we do not have to sell any part of our inventory! Sure we have responsibilities to undertake but we are both retired and actually enjoy what we do. 

I can go fishing anytime I want and she takes yoga trips all over the place with her friends-most recently Croatia. Yes, we have stocks and Index funds but they are just numbers on a ledger we get every month, and the returns pale compared to what we make as land lords. Thanks for the post!

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  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    3y

    @Brady Mullen I think this is spot on. I consider my rental properties to be just like any small service business. It is the best deal ever. My wife and I get paid every month and we do not have to sell any part of our inventory! Sure we have responsibilities to undertake but we are both retired and actually enjoy what we do. 

    I can go fishing anytime I want and she takes yoga trips all over the place with her friends-most recently Croatia. Yes, we have stocks and Index funds but they are just numbers on a ledger we get every month, and the returns pale compared to what we make as land lords. Thanks for the post!

  • Michael SmytheBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2023 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    Too many new investors don't understand that owning rentals is NOT a passive investment!

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  • Corey ConklinPro Member
    Investor · Member since 2021 · 129 posts · 209 votes
    3y

    @Brady Mullen Great post!

    I'm big on managing my own risk. If I screw up, I will live with it, learn from it, and move on. Real estate is great because it gives me full control of my investment strategy. There is risk involved but it is all worth it to me. As I've learned more about REI, my risk has gone down exponentially, therefore adding to my overall return rate.

    All it takes is work. If you don't want to do the work I would recommend finding another investment strategy. 

  • Brady MullenPro Member
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    Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 61 posts · 100 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Corey Conklin:

    @Brady Mullen Great post!

    I'm big on managing my own risk. If I screw up, I will live with it, learn from it, and move on. Real estate is great because it gives me full control of my investment strategy. There is risk involved but it is all worth it to me. As I've learned more about REI, my risk has gone down exponentially, therefore adding to my overall return rate.

    All it takes is work. If you don't want to do the work I would recommend finding another investment strategy. 

     Right on, @Corey Conklin!  There is no more "real" asset than competence.  I love it.

  • Brady MullenPro Member
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    Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 61 posts · 100 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    Too many new investors don't understand that owning rentals is NOT a passive investment!


     I think passivity is an illusion.  We are all tempted to seek it, but the only true passive condition is death.  Gotta stay frosty! :)

  • Brady MullenPro Member
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    Denver, CO · Member since 2021 · 61 posts · 100 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Bjorn Ahlblad:

    @Brady Mullen I think this is spot on. I consider my rental properties to be just like any small service business. It is the best deal ever. My wife and I get paid every month and we do not have to sell any part of our inventory! Sure we have responsibilities to undertake but we are both retired and actually enjoy what we do. 

    I can go fishing anytime I want and she takes yoga trips all over the place with her friends-most recently Croatia. Yes, we have stocks and Index funds but they are just numbers on a ledger we get every month, and the returns pale compared to what we make as land lords. Thanks for the post!

     I love this, @Bjorn Ahlblad!  I love that you and your wife have embraced responsibility.  So many people talk about seeking a truly passive lifestyle, but for anyone who has tried that for a couple of weeks will realize life is meaningless without meaningful engagement and responsibilities.  The trick is to choose them, rather than having them choose you.  Thanks for sharing!

  • Member since 2021 · 9 posts · 1 vote
    3y

    Successful REIs advise not to use your own money but to use other people’s funds. With real Estate, lenders have booming market. Lenders and REIs are mutually beneficial to each other.

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