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Updated almost 6 years ago on . Most recent reply

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Jim Macedon
  • Round Rock, TX
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Developers: How Do You Guys Make So Much Money?

Jim Macedon
  • Round Rock, TX
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I put a piece of land under option and went through the whole process of getting quotes for everything for a 36 unit condo project.  Below are the numbers I came up with.  I have no idea how to make money in development now.  What am I doing wrong? (Sorry, I'm sure the formatting will get screwed up when I copy and paste this.)

Costs
Costs that can be financed
43200 x $140 = $6,048,000 building costs
      $75,000 pool
      $150,000 site work
      $85,000 land
      $10,000 design fees
      $60,000 civil engineering
      $5,000 legal fees (condo incorporation)
      $100,000 developer fees
      $288,000 commissions and closing costs
      $7,000 web design
      $6,828,000 total financiable costs
Costs that cannot be financed
      $1,092,480 closing and interest costs
Total cost
      $8,208,480 total costs
Total cash cost
$6,828,000 x 0.2 = $1,365,600 down payment on construction loan
      $1,092,480 closing and interest costs
      $2,458,080 total cash cost
Revenue, Profit, and ROI
      $200,000 estimated sales price per unit
36 x $200,000 = $7,200,000 revenue
$7,200,000 - $8,208,480 = ($1,008,480) profit
($1,008,480) / $2,458,080 = -41.03% ROI

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Nik Moushon
  • Architect
  • Wenatchee, WA
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Nik Moushon
  • Architect
  • Wenatchee, WA
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I dont know where you got your design fee from but it is WAY underpriced. Architecture fees alone ar going to run you 5-10% on construction cost. So based off you 6 mil price thats $30-60k. I also dont see any permit fees, which is going to be in the 5 digits as well, unless this is in your developer fees...which im not sure what those are exactly. 

One thing to note, I'm assuming you paid all cash for the land, you can use the land value as a down payment for the construction loan. 

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