Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Multi-Family and Apartment Investing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated almost 5 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

128
Posts
23
Votes
Daniel Lozowy
  • Investor
  • Montreal, QC
23
Votes |
128
Posts

Digging deeper in syndication returns

Daniel Lozowy
  • Investor
  • Montreal, QC
Posted

You often hear syndicators say: we're looking at a minimum 20% return or 15%IRR. Things like that. For the sake of curiosity, I'm wondering what factors influence those required returns. Stock market volatily? 10Y treasury bond yields? Passive investors demand? What do you think?

Is it just an industry-standard or is it tied to underlying factors.

Anyways, I'm hoping to hear your thoughts,

Take care

Daniel

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

2,283
Posts
6,908
Votes
Brian Burke
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
  • Investor
  • Santa Rosa, CA
6,908
Votes |
2,283
Posts
Brian Burke
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
  • Investor
  • Santa Rosa, CA
Replied

Whatever the sponsors say about forecasted performance means absolutely nothing.  It all boils down to the assumptions that the sponsors are using to arrive at that forecasted performance.  Garbage in, garbage out, as they say.

There are a lot of levers that can be pulled to engineer projections.  I have a whole section in my book on this, there really are that many variables.  Debt assumptions, vacancy, concessions, bad debt, every line item of expense, routine capital improvements, how much money is raised, all of that will impact the returns that are calculated.  

The return itself is also meaningless without context. A 20% IRR deal isn't better than a 12% IRR deal if the lower return is a low-risk stabilized property in a great neighborhood and the higher return is a speculative development project in a sleepy market. Returns should always be considered on a risk-adjusted basis.

Loading replies...