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Just another question on Coaching- 20k for 2 years
I know this question has been discussed here many times. But wanted to get your perspective on this one. I reached out to Jake/Gino about their coaching program and was contacted by Dillion. I let him know what my goals moving forward are and asked him about the cost of coaching. I was told the investment to work with them will be 20k and that's for 2 year relationship with the group. I'll be talking to him soon, but I'm sure that I read somewhere their coaching was around 3k. Has something changed or is this pricing for some different product that I'm not aware of ? I'm definitely interested in hands on training but wanted to get some feedback from this group.
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Manmath,
I spent 13 years in a 9a-5p with zero real estate experience. I joined J&G last May… one of the best decisions I’ve ever made… if you (or anyone) would like further details, feel free to DM me.
*** FULL DISCLOSURE*** I don’t get paid or compensated or anything from anyone in or related to the J&G community. These are my own personal opinions / viewpoints.
“Relationship with the group” is an excellent way to describe this community. From my point of view it’s an all-encompassing program, specifically geared toward value add approach. There are other approaches to multifamily real estate investment such as new construction or institutional / A-class wealth preservation. In my personal opinion, I don’t want to deal with the permitting or local politics of new construction and I don’t have millions of my own in wealth to preserve. The value add approach is most suitable for what I envision and where I would like to go in the future. I had zero past experience, so diving in head first made my learning curve very steep.
The Academy program includes both mentoring and coaching; they’re different and it’s very apparent in their program. Some people learn and respond differently to each, and J&G provide both.
Mindset: Perhaps an alternative way to view / describe this program: It’s not a cost… it’s an investment in yourself and the potential for future freedom and generational wealth for you and your family. My mindset change has been a huge part of this program.
In terms of “what you get” or how they help you invest in yourself – a Library of hundreds of hours of video from start to finish of their own ground-up business step-by-step, documents, check lists, tools, programs, resources, networks, credibility book examples, private Facebook group with tons of historical data you can search and current news being posted.
They didn’t start in syndication, they partnered up, Jake went door to door collecting cash by hand, Gino entered data manually into QuickBooks. They’ve been through the inefficiencies of what may not be the best use of time and were able to look back and say “man, I should have outsourced that faster or changed that system so I could free up more of my time to focus on more important tasks.” Those lessons they have learned are shared with you so you can know it, address it, and then focus on your best use of time, in which steps, in which order, in what process. This allows you to get where you want to go, faster. They have expanded and broadened to Syndication… another tool in the toolbox of multifamily investing. They continually add new modules to the Library of which you have access to.
Yes their time is valuable… they spent years in the trenches building this. Still, they’re on a weekly group call on Mondays where you can ask them anything you want. Gino gets on a one-on-one call with you right away and is always personally available. You have periodic calls with your coach. There are Boot Camps throughout the year, Buy Right, Manage Right, Finance Right; 2.5 days each. There are various Money Mixers over weekends, I had an opportunity to meet face to face and shake hands with billionaire Jim Clayton, never expected that. Both Jake and Gino and the coaches all attend these events. Multifamily investing is a team sport – they have experts attend these events and present, and after you are able to personally meet and interact with them. They themselves are all active and participating in the market today.
Everyone’s situation is different, some may be young, single, with tons of free time, and can do a deal in 90 days. Other’s may have a full time job, 3 kids, aging parents, so “quantifying” students’ results isn’t fair to the Academy Program. You get out what you put in. There is way more knowledge to absorb than you can take in in a 2.5 day “coaching” program… it’s like drinking from a fire hose. The two years is a worthwhile investment.
That being said, what I have found most valuable is the networking and relationships built from within the community. Specifically the bi-monthly Accountability Pod (or Mastermind Group, whatever you want to call it) or when attending other industry conferences or meetups not put together by this group, I see individuals from previous Boot Camps or Mixers, they know others, and your network expands exponentially.
Their Academy Program aligns well with my goal of full-time real estate, specifically value add multifamily and I can’t say enough positive things about the J&G community.
It’s not necessarily the deals that you get under contract… sometimes it’s about a coach, mentor, another student seeing something you may miss, and helping you avoid a potential disaster that may drag you under, rather than push your momentum forward. You’ll learn things you didn’t know that you didn’t know J
Education x Action = Results
“If it makes you money, it costs you nothing” ~Cole Hatter