8 unit building, looking for financing/deal structuring advice

[Paul Gwilliam]

I'm looking at a property right now that is multi family and has a significant value add potential. However, the current numbers show it's a dog.

I'm fairly confident I can get the seller to let me manage it for a few months and be flexible with the purchase situation. If I can manage it for a few months, I can fill the vacancies, and maybe increase rent a bit, or turn over a couple units at increased rents. I just need to buy some time.

My question is about financing it. Is there a way with multi family financing to get a carryback from a seller to eliminate my need for a down payment? OR if I got short term financing for 6 months to increase income/decrease expenses and get a better value which makes a refinance possible. I wouldn't need a down payment if the purchase price is less than the 75% LTV because it's a refinance. How can I make this work? What is your experience?

Here are the numbers.

List Price 250k (Not paying close to that)

Current NOI 3,000

Potential NOI after some management changes 20,000

8 units current rent 400 (3 vacant)

market rent 450-550

Empty basement with space for 2 or 3 more units after much construction.

[Jeff Kehl]

@Paul Gwilliam So let's play this out a bit. They are currently getting $2k/month from the 5 rented units. So what would you offer them as a master lease payment $1k/month ? Why would this be attractive to them? Because you're going to also sign an option to buy the building in a year for $250k? Ok, I can almost see that but the main problem I see is you're almost certainly going to have to spend a lot of money on those down units $5-$10k/unit to get them rented.  Where is that money coming from?