Calling all rehabbers- a case for passive investing

Calling all rehabbers- a case for passive investing

Investor · Batavia, IL · Member since 2014 · 102 posts · 81 votes

Recently, a solid, all brick ranch home came on the market in one of the neighborhoods where I manage my investments. It is a 3 bedroom, 1.5 baths, home in a very nice area and seemed below market. I drove by, stopped, and chatted with him. He let me tour the house. As we talked, he mentioned that he had outlived his parents, siblings, and spouse (not an easy situation). I was, of course, complimentary of the home. It was obvious that he has been smoking in it for at least a decade. Everything was original from the 50s and in terrible shape, a serious gutting.

Trying to assess the basics of the project. I was concerned whether it be a bidding war for a total rehab? And what could I sell it for as it is the worst home in the neighborhood? And it needs everything. But I am not deterred. To get my bearings straight, I contact my realtor/mentor with more experience than anyone I know.

I told him that I thought this could be a good candidate for a flip. It’s in a good area. Blah, blah, blah. He sent me the listing, comps, and the bad news. He gave me the current status of our market for flips. The listing says, “calling all rehabbers… best offer by such date”. He said that since I would be competing against rehabbers that it’s gotten more complicated. Rehabbers in our area are looking to build the project into a job for themselves. Meaning project is their job, cover their costs and the payroll that’s it.

That was not my plan. I thought to outsource a bunch of work and make 50% at the sale. So spitballing, I invest approximately $100K and walk away with $150K. That not only sounds unlikely, but it also will be an extensive amount of my time.

Conversely, If I invest as a Limited Partner in a syndication, I can take that same 100K, and here is the possible scenario.

  1. 1.) Contact a broker-dealer that I know, like, and trust. And let them know that I want to engage in evaluating syndications. They will ask some questions and ask to fill out an investor questionnaire for suitability.
  2. 2.) Based on the information provided, they will start sending project details. Common projects are large multifamily apartment complexes focused on a value-add strategy to reduce risk, taking Class B products and improving them to Class B+ or A equivalent. The details for these projects outline the team managing the project and their strategy. It includes the market demographics and the business plan. This data will have been analyzed by the broker team and reviewed before inviting investors to participate.
  3. The data will also include the investment structure. Many are structured as 7% preferred return + share of profits with 70/30 LP/GP profit split to 2x multiple. Basically, the investor should receive a target 7% annual income paid monthly. At the end of the project or sale, the LP will get 70% of profits to achieve 2X investment. Hold Period: 3 to 5 years.
  4. 3.) The next step review/ sign the PPM (private placement memorandum) and fund the project.
  5. 4.) Within several months, the investment is cash-flowing, unlike a house flip that could be hemorrhaging cash.

So in a 3-5 year period, an LP investor may be able to take 100K and achieve a 2X multiple.

Joe Archbold

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  • AJ ShepardPro Member
    Real Estate Syndicator · Portland, OR · Member since 2014 · 453 posts · 312 votes
    5y

    Joe,

    That seems like a good story and a good way to compare syndication to an active job.  
    The comparison in each of the scenarios highlights the time and effort involved. Both will make you a return, both contain risk.  It seems like the flip and rehab will certainly be more risk for you, but could also make a 50% return.  But like you said, you’d be trading your time, headspace and still not positive of the 50% return which could go to negative as well.  
    The syndication route allows for you to continue meeting with other property owners and takes up very little time.  The risk seems to be less as you would vet the operator to make sure they do what they say they can do and have an established business with track record.  Maybe some time up front to put into vetting, but generally not a ton of time.  

    There is an avenue for everyone out there to invest in real estate in some capacity. It just takes some willingness to figure it out.  I don’t think there is a right answer, just a right answer for you.

  • Paul MoorePro Member
    Commercial Real Estate Fund Manager · Lynchburg, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Joe Archbold. I’m in my 3rd decade as a real estate investor. I’ve done rehabs, rentals, multifamily, subdivisions, a hotel and many other things.  I wholeheartedly agree with you that for most people, passive investing is the way to go!  Almost every investor I know eventually arrives at this place.  Not all though.  Thanks  

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