Is Mindset all that important in REI?

Is Mindset all that important in REI?

Real Estate Broker · Albuquerque, NM · Member since 2015 · 285 posts · 232 votes

A few years ago, I bought the largest project I'd ever taken on.  It was a fantastic 100+ year old Victorian home in a Historic district of Albuquerque.  I was so excited to take this on.  The city had condemned the property as there were some hazards such as sinking foundation, faulty wiring, bad windows, roof, etc.  It was a foreclosure and the highest and best use most saw as a scrape and rebuild site.  Not me though.  I wanted to bring this house back to life.  

I convinced my partner to go for and we were off to the races.  We were both busy in our other businesses, so we decided to hire a project manager and oversee the work.  Initially, it started out ok.  Within a couple of weeks, we started to notice issues with the work being done as well as attitude from our PM.  The original project deadline was 3 - 3.5 months and $130,000 budget.  

Week after week the conversations got harder and more volatile with my PM which then flowed through to my partner.  I was angry.  Every day I grew more and more angry and frustrated by the process.  The budget ballooned to nearly $165,000 and we ran over total time of 6.5 months.  We put the house on the market with all of its flaws only to have the country shut down due to the pandemic.  It was crickets in that area of town.  Eventually, 14 months after we started the house sold and we broke even.  It was heart breaking.

As I write this today, I received my biggest lesson to date in real estate this morning.  I was reading The Magic of Believing by Claude Bristol.  He stated something to the effect that if you believe you can, you will.  Your inner voice will go to work to find the solutions you need to succeed.  For some reason, these words took me back to this old Victorian house we sold last year.  

See, my anger and frustration stopped our progress.  I had an absolute hatred for the project to the point that I fired myself as the listing broker and hired a friend to sell it.  He came in and sold it within 3 weeks.  I couldn't talk about the house without inner rage.  I was so angry at our PM.  I was angry at the sub-contractors. I was angry with the timeline.  You name it.  My partner was angry with me for getting us into the mess.  But Today, that all changed.

Here's the lesson.  The house was the biggest project I had ever taken on.  It was intimidating and a bit scary, but excitement drove me to complete it against all the odds.  When it was done, the house passed city inspections and was deemed habitable once again.  This piece of history was preserved due to our vision for it.  It looks different.  We modernized it and we completed was seemed impossible to do.  I CAN DO THIS!  

Don't get me wrong.  There were a lot of mistakes we can learn from moving forward.  I will and have.  The reality is that the inner self doubt of whether I can or can't do the job is gone.  That's a huge energizing fact.  The negative inner anger froze me and paralyzed me in my tracks.  That House now stands as a beauty marker on that street because I first saw it.  That vision became a reality.  

When you're not sure about what direction you want to take your real estate investing career or if fear and doubt weigh heavily on your mind.  Reach deep to find the things you've successfully completed in your life even when the odds seemed against you.  I've decided that this house is actually my greatest victory so far in real estate.  

What has been the biggest lesson you've learned around mindset?  What obstacle almost stopped you but you pushed through?

I'm excited to hear what you all come up with!

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Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 956 posts · 510 votes
5y

“Whether you think you can or you can’t , you’re right ! “

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  • Joe SplitrockPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
    5y

    @Joshua Christensen 

    One of my favorite stories from Tony Robbins talks about the limits of positive thinking. He says, you can go to your garden and close your eyes and say "no weeds, no weeds, no weeds" but when you open your eyes the weeds will still be there. You can't wish them away. You need to take action to pull the weeds. Although mindset is important, positive action is more important. 

    I once rehabbed a 100 year old building, against the advice of a mentor who was experienced in real estate. Those types of projects are always over budget and take longer due to hidden problems. I thought I knew better as all young people do. As I ran out of budget, I started doing more work myself. I had a 50 hour day job and I spend 40 hours working there for several weeks. I used sweat equity and massive action to make the project work. It was a valuable learning experience and we saved a piece of history. We even listed the property on the National registry of historic places, which is a permanent designation. Years later we visited that building located on a main street in a small historic town. The main floor is now a restaurant and the young chef who owns it was featured on the Food Network. 

    Take pride in how your business helps the community. Revitalizing old buildings is saving history and adds to the value of the neighborhood and the city. On a base level we all invest for money, but money alone will not fulfill anyone. Take pride in your work and your contribution. Great job and thanks for sharing your story.

  • Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach, VA (Virginia Beach) · Member since 2019 · 173 posts · 129 votes
    5y

    @Joshua Christensen Mindset is everything, one of the biggest things I have learned along the way is your mindset will dictate your actions or your inactions.  I actually just wrote a post this morning about just this topic.  I spent years trying to accomplish something in real estate on my own and got no where, not because I couldn't get it done or I didn't have the ability but mainly because of mindset and accountability.  I was operating from a mindset of how can I possibly do this accountable to only myself and thus i was taking little or no action to ensure my success.  Time after time I justified to my self why I didn't or couldn't accomplish something.  It wasn't until I mastered accountability and mindset that I was able to be successful, I shifted to a mindset of How do I get this done, and established relationships with people to hold e accountable until I was able to hold myself accountable and action followed.

  • Lien VuongBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Boston, MA · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    What a great story, thank you for sharing. Do you have pictures of the project? Before and after?

  • Joshua ChristensenPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Albuquerque, NM · Member since 2015 · 285 posts · 232 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Lien Vuong:

    What a great story, thank you for sharing. Do you have pictures of the project? Before and after?

    Hello Lien, Yes, here is a link to the album with some Before and After pictures.  https://photos.app.goo.gl/SRTf...

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 956 posts · 510 votes
    5y

    “Whether you think you can or you can’t , you’re right ! “

  • Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Joshua Christensen, the reason stories like yours are fairly thin on the ground here at BP is that they're often put in the category labelled "Expensive Hobbies", rather than the category "Actions Towards Bigger Pockets".

    ie. Most folk here find it sensible to fulfill the "ATBP" column first, before changing their mindset.  Congrats on following your dream; helping the neighborhood too.  Cheers...

  • Joshua ChristensenPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Albuquerque, NM · Member since 2015 · 285 posts · 232 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Marci Stein:

    “Whether you think you can or you can’t , you’re right ! “

    Thanks Marci.  I love this Henry Ford quote.  I've been sharing it with my girls for 20 years.  lol

  • Joshua ChristensenPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Albuquerque, NM · Member since 2015 · 285 posts · 232 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Brent Coombs:

    @Joshua Christensen, the reason stories like yours are fairly thin on the ground here at BP is that they're often put in the category labelled "Expensive Hobbies", rather than the category "Actions Towards Bigger Pockets".

    ie. Most folk here find it sensible to fulfill the "ATBP" column first, before changing their mindset.  Congrats on following your dream; helping the neighborhood too.  Cheers...

    Thanks Brent.  I am definitely the product of a broken thought pattern.  In my mid 30's I was introduced to the subconscious mind and learning to change my limiting beliefs.  15 years in, there is still a lot or room for improvement and I'm grateful for the blessings we've experienced to this point.  

    Cheers!

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 956 posts · 510 votes
    5y

    @Joshua ChristensenHi didn’t realize it was henry Ford - thanks for that!

  • Matthew Irish-JonesBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Joshua Christensen mindset is not the most important thing on REI. It's the most important thing in life.

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  • John MorganPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Joshua Christensen

    The biggest thing I’ve learned about my positive optimistic mindset is not everyone thinks like this. You can throw anything at me and my blood pressure won’t rise. I’ll figure out a solution and take care of it looking for any positives along the way. And I’ve been crushed with some awful things in RE that probably should have really pissed me off or make me want to quit and get out of RE. But I always see a positive outcome and start moving towards that goal when things come my way. However, my wife doesn’t think this way and has caused major problems in our marriage. The biggest nugget I can pass on to those with positive and optimistic attitudes like me is to respect your spouse’s attitudes and opinions as well. I didn’t and kept on moving forward with my vision. Hindsight, my wife now sees that me buying 10 rental properties in 5 years in a hot market with huge rental demand was a good financial decision for us. But by me bulldozing over her and her not so optimistic attitudes, took a hit on my marriage. So my takeaway is to respect those who don’t think like us, and find a happy medium. Money isn’t everything. If I could go back in time, I would have compromised and bought only 3 or 4 properties to remain in her comfort level and show her I respect her feelings over our financial decisions.

  • Joshua ChristensenPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Albuquerque, NM · Member since 2015 · 285 posts · 232 votes
    5y

    @John Morgan That is some solid advice my friend.  Thank you for sharing.  I've been very blessed with an amazing wife.  We don't share the same outlook and she is still my biggest support.  When I start to lose focus, she's right there spurring me on.  

    I don't always subscribe to the positive mental attitude, and I do believe that our outcomes and our actions are directly affected by our thinking.  Our thinking in this life of ours has to first of all be considerate to others, action oriented, solution oriented, goal driven, and Results focused.  There are real things in life and in business that are negative.  How we handle those moments says a lot about us and will determine how we come out the other side.

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