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David Lao
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At what price point is it worth doing a Section 1031 exchange?

David Lao
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I live in CA and have owned several rentals in central PA for four years. It's in an area that is known to cash flow, but not appreciate due to a declining population. I've been thinking about selling a rental or two (with or without taking advantage of Section 1031)... 

At what price points does it make sense to pay a Section 1031 intermediary to do a S1031????  50K? 100K? 500K? 1M?  How much does it cost?

The option would be to hold onto the rentals until I die.

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@David Lao, PA does indeed not allow 1031s on the state level and exempt state taxes.  But that's not all of the story.  In most situations where you live in one state and have rentals in another the way that taxation works can be a huge surprise gotcha.

Most states where you reside will give you credit for taxes paid in other states.  But if the tax you would pay in your home state is more than the state where your rental is located is then they will want to collect the difference.

So while it's true that you will pay PA taxes with or without a 1031, there's more to the issue than that.  PA tax is a flat 3.07%.  If you focus on that only you could very well end up paying an additional 9.6% in CA tax if you don't do the 1031 (thanks in small part to the "I can't make this up... Mental Health Services tax to CA residents).  That's a surprise a lot of folks overlook or don't realize.

So for you, being a CA resident makes the calculation of your gain and potential tax even more important.

@Basit Siddiqi and @Bill B., give you some great analysis on $ and cents and evaluating that.  You don't want to forget the 25% depreciation recapture that  they mention as well.  An exchange of $750 or so in the central-eastern states should be stacked up against the tax potentially due for sure. 

You're looking this very strategically.  You've left your three main options open - 1. no 1031-take profit pay tax.  2. 1031 pay PA 3.07 of profit.  3. hold till death.

1. locks in the profit but it's less net and you're still stuck finding a place to put the net dollars.  But you do have more options other than just real estate.

2. Keeps you in real estate but allows you to use all dollars so you continue garnering the compounding interest (that's the most powerful source of ongoing gain).  And 1031 allows you to reposition into areas or types where you can capture more appreciation or roi. 

3. A great thought if they're performing.  But years of net income can be eaten up quickly in some hefty cap ex that comes up every decade or so.  As opposed to a 1031 into more stable properties or a larger property with lower maintenance. 

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