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Robert C.
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  • San Francisco, CA
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How many people think the worst is over and why?

Robert C.
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
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I'm trying to reframe the question from too much of the gloom and doom talk, and looking for an informal poll about the way forward. My belief is that anyone analyzing their market needs to look slightly to the future, or at least stay solidly in the legitimate present to take advantage of opportunities. I can't believe that I am still hearing people ask "are we in a recession?" type questions. To me, it's way past the time to be asking that, and largely irrelevant from this point forward. 

Disclaimers - No, you can't time the market exactly, but the general trends can and do affect underwriting. Yes, some people have just continued to operate as normal with conservative underwriting standards, but not everyone or the opportunities they pursue operate that way.

Here's my sense of things from my market:

1.) There was a "Covid discount" that took affect after the shelter in place orders. That wasn't an across-the-board discount, but there have been some fearful sellers in a rush to get in contract/close. However, that is quickly going away now that the dust has settled and shelter in place is ending. 

2.) I don't hear the rumors of certain landlords/developers in financial trouble like I did after 2008. That makes me think people are reasonably capitalized. I'm skeptical of the idea of something bigger hitting 6-12 months out due to forbearance, etc.

3.) April and May rent collections were better than people expected. And people started getting back to work these last couple weeks, so pay checks will be steady again.

4.) Constructions costs have not dropped. If anything they are up due to material supply constraints and a backlog of work.

5.) Lenders tightened up, but seem to be starting to lend with better terms again.

6.) There's definitely shifting going on with rentals (people moving in and out), which is unsettling, but the rents in my neighborhoods have stayed steady. San Francisco has softened, but I think that's temporary due to transition. The suburbs seem stable.

Am I being too optimistic here? 

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