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Aleks Gifford
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Oceanpoint and other companies owned by Whalen and Morris

Aleks Gifford
  • Lender
  • Indianapolis, IN
Posted Jun 29 2018, 09:30

Good Afternoon,

Things are progressing nicely on bringing Whalen and Morris to justice.

We have hear from a couple of hundred Indianapolis victims but I know they are running the scam in Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky, Tennessee and Florida. If you have properties there we would love to talk to you.

Thank you

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Josh C.
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Josh C.
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  • Indianapolis, IN
Replied Jun 30 2018, 16:01

They already started a new property management company and are signing leases! I have a copy from their new company and they took from from tenants where they had no pm agreement signed and didn’t fix the house as promised (hundreds of examples of this) Plus have tons of fake leases and other bs we’ve dealt with over the years we’d happy to share. Let’s talk off line.

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Aleks Gifford
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Aleks Gifford
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  • Indianapolis, IN
Replied Jun 30 2018, 17:00

Josh when can we chat? 

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Josh C.
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Josh C.
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Replied Jul 3 2018, 22:01

I’m local. You can come into the office this week if you want. We are in Garfield Park.

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Brian Freeman
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Brian Freeman
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Replied Oct 3 2018, 07:27

Aleks, what's the status of legal action against these crooks?  I am putting together a CA lawsuit now.  I lost about 20k on my "investment." It was all a scam, a fraud, perpetuated by Oceanpointe and Clayton Morris.

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Aleks Gifford
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Aleks Gifford
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Replied Oct 3 2018, 07:45

They are under investigation by multiple Federal and Local Agencies.  These take a while to see people charged and standing before a judge.

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Aleks Gifford
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Aleks Gifford
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  • Indianapolis, IN
Replied Oct 3 2018, 11:52

For investors that have houses in Indianapolis they are looking at walking away from I would beg of you to contact Renew Indianapolis (City of Indianapolis Land Bank) and see if they will accept it as a donation (you get the tax writeoff) and be able to turn it quicker instead of it going back to the tax lien or surplus sale and Oceanpointe getting to buy it again.

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Jeff Schechter
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Jeff Schechter
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Replied Nov 19 2018, 14:25

Update:  Oceanpointe has re-invented itself as Freeportinvest.com.  Operating out of the same two markets:  Jacksonville and Indianapolis.  Their website uses an Illinois phone number.  Go figure. 

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Larry Fried
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  • Eugene, OR
Replied Nov 19 2018, 16:01
Originally posted by @Jeff Schechter:

Update:  Oceanpointe has re-invented itself as Freeportinvest.com.  Operating out of the same two markets:  Jacksonville and Indianapolis.  Their website uses an Illinois phone number.  Go figure. 

 Jeff, aren't they also in Detroit or is that just Morris Invest (aka: the Morrises) that are operating there?  Via the business search, it looks like Freeport established in Indiana in April of this year.  Sandra Whalen is the registered agent.  

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Jeff Schechter
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Replied Nov 20 2018, 11:31

@Larry Fried From what I understand, Clayton Morris has tried to divorce himself from Oceanpointe, and is using another local 3rd party to sell in Detroit.  Oceanpointe is/was owned by Bert Whalen, hence the registered agent name for the newer entity.  

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Sean Boon
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Sean Boon
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Replied Nov 22 2018, 16:15
@Aleks Gifford I’m interested in learning more about legal recourse against Morris and Whalen. I’m looking for an attorney to sue them over a property in Florida. Thanks, Sean

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Aleks Gifford
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Aleks Gifford
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Replied Nov 22 2018, 17:50

They are in 5 cities using about a dozen legal entities. If you want to help call the Indianapolis Field Office for the FBI and talk to Special Agent C. Barfield.

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Lydia Mary
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Lydia Mary
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Replied Feb 26 2019, 06:52

I have 8 homes in JAX..  my bad I let him close before finished, what/who is taking him on there ??  Am flying to JAX in a few days...  would love to chat with someone...  looked at small claims court, but looks like he's got a lot of cases already.  

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Brady Hurs
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Brady Hurs
  • Atlanta, GA
Replied Mar 26 2019, 10:34

Their scheme is now out in the public:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/sports/fox-news-clayton-morris-indianapolis.html

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Jay Hinrichs
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Jay Hinrichs
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Replied Mar 26 2019, 10:48
Originally posted by @Aleks Gifford:

They are in 5 cities using about a dozen legal entities. If you want to help call the Indianapolis Field Office for the FBI and talk to Special Agent C. Barfield.

this is big enough the FBI might actually take a swing at it.. and Ole Morris is hanging out there like a big Matzah ball.   He has little to no defense and a ton of evidence supporting those suing him.