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Updated almost 4 years ago,
Subject To - How an Actual Deal Worked - Including the Numbers
Subject To - How an Actual Deal Worked - Including the Numbers
Here is how I did it: I was contacted by an investor who hadn’t done any deals successfully. She was a little afraid to make the jump on her own. She invested $50k for me to put a deal together and I took over from there. She asked me to explain it to her so I decided since I had it written up, I would post it here for anyone to learn from. I found the property. (I find lots of properties using a technique that I’ve used many times over the years.) I bought “Subject To” (No Bank involved) I found a house in Mesa AZ suitable to the transaction. I still have to complete the other deals I've run across when she or someone else wants to do the next one. I'll try to post those too.
Zillow says this house is 5 beds 2 baths 1,526 sqft but actually has 3 beds (possible 4 beds) with fireplace, pool and RV Gate in Mesa AZ. The Seller was wanting as much for the house as possible of course. I offered $160,000 and he countered with $180,000. We settled on that $180,000. Not cash nor financing but on MY Terms. This property was off market and no real estate agents involved. That is an old sign in the picture from a previous sale, not this sale. Anyway . . .
There are some rough patches in the property that would have to be fixed up in order to qualify for FHA financing. The roof needs some work, a wall was removed to enlarge the kitchen but wasn't completed. The amount owing is about $145,000. Zillow has it valued at $212,524 and listed as 5 bedrooms.
So, the basics are that I offered $15k in cash to the Seller towards their equity with the remaining equity to be held as a second. I take over existing payments.
Now, why would the seller agree to that? Well, he understood that using a real estate agent would require that he fix up the house to at least FHA requirements and he wasn't prepared to do that. It would also mean that he would have to pay 6% or about $12,000 to a realtor to list it in the MLS. It would also mean that he would be uncertain when the sale would happen. Selling to me he had a guaranteed sale.
So, the numbers look like this: (round numbers)
$180,000 I bought for “Subject To” (I took over the underlying mortgage)
$15,000 I gave him cash so he could move on
The rest of his equity to be held as a note. (A second mortgage to him)
$145,000 the amount I took over on the loan
$995 My payment per month PITI (I pay every month to the underlying mortgage)
I was able to find what I call a Tenant Buyer and Sell on a Lease Option. He is responsible for all maintenance and repairs. I didn’t do any repairs. This is not a Fix & Flip.
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| 1) One way to look at the Equity Profit: | | | | |||
| $50,000 | Amount she placed in Investment Fund | | | |||
| $15,000 | Given to Seller for moving | | | | ||
| $35,000 | Remains in Investment Fund | | | | ||
| | To be used for reserves, carrying costs, marketing, closing, etc | |||||
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| Here is how I Bought | | | | |
Bought | $180,000 | Amount Bought for | | | |
Paid Out | $15,000 | Gave to Seller for moving | | | |
Still Owe 2nd | $20,000 | (Seller carries a Second mortgage to us) | | ||
Still Owe 1st | $145,000 | Our amount owing on the property Taking it Subject To | |||
| | So, we still owe $145,000 on the original mortgage | |||
| | and $20,000 to the Seller on a carry back 2nd | |||
Owe Total | $165,000 | for a total of $165,000 still owing | | | |
| Here is how I Sold | | | | |
Sold | $235,000 | "Sold" (Lease Optioned) Amount to a Tenant Buyer | |||
Collected In | $20,000 | Option/Down payment from Tenant Buyer | | ||
Owner Carry | $215,000 | Lease Option to Tenant Buyer | | |
| So far on the Investment Fund | | ||
Paid Out | $15,000 | So, we have paid out $15,000 | | |
Collected In | $20,000 | And Received in $20,000 | | |
| $35,000 | Remains in investment Fund | | |
| | The $20,000 goes into the Fund | | |
Fund | $55,000 | Makes $55,000 still in Fund | | |
Profit | $5,000 | Equity Profit, so far | | |
| 10.0% | Equity ROI , so far | | |
| Remaining Equity | | | |
We're Owed | $215,000 | Amount Tenant Buyer Still Owes Me | ||
We Owe | $165,000 | Our Total Payoff (1st $145K + 2nd $20k) | ||
Profit | $50,000 | Amount Gross Equity | | |
| 100.0% | Equity ROI , remaining | |
| In Addition - We make monthly Cash Flow Profit | | |||
| $1,650 | Tenant Buyer Monthly Payment | | | |
| $995 | Our Monthly Payment | | | |
| $655 | Monthly Cash Flow | | | |
| $7,860 | Yearly Cash Flow | | | |
| 15.7% | Yearly Cash Flow ROI | | |
It's a reasonable deal. Needless to say she is quite happy.