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MHP - How do you feel about POHs (Park owned Homes)?
I'm looking at my first MHP deal and hoping for some general advice on POH.
The park I'm looking at now is fairly dominated by mostly older POH (16/24 occupied pads) . All that I have read says to get rid of POH as they essentially seem to be more trouble than they're worth. With that said, these POH rents are more than double the $350 pad rents and add real money to the NOI.
I realize that POH heavy parks are not the business, but with that said, is there some percentage of POH in a park that's OK? I would imagine every investor looks at this slightly differently. Any and all advice or thoughts would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Ben
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@Benjamin Schultz I'll throw in a bit of a different viewpoint on this issue, which I have shamelessly stolen from Ryan Narus (Host of the MHP irl Podcast)
First off, looking at the MHP and the POH rentals as two separate businesses helps answer the questions because the banks/investors will and its eliminate the temptation to say "but the POH add so much to the NOI" if they are separate entities with their own balance sheets and P&Ls.
Generally POH rentals are not the best model due to a few factors, but, from my perspective at least, they are not automatically a bad idea. It depends on the quality of the POH, the overall rental market, the size of the park, and how you choose to manage the property.
If you have all pre 1976 mobile homes, in a 20 unit rural park which you want to self manage, having POH rentals is a terrible idea. The long term expenses and turnover will eat through any rental profit once you factor in paying the MHP lot rent and for your time.
On the other hand, if you have all 2000 or newer homes that are 1500+sqft, in a 75+ unit park within 30 miles of a growing secondary MSA that has a full time manager, you may want to take a hard look at renting the POHs.
If a 3/2 stick built house rents for $1,200 a month by this 75+ space park that has a lot rent of $275, then you could rent out a 3/2 POH for $950/month. Assuming 65% expense ratio, including lot rent, if you got the homes for $25k per when you bought the park (because banks won't finance them and the seller wanted to get ride of them), you'd be getting around $340/month, which is a better than a 15% return from cash flow.
Granted this makes some rosy assumptions and applies to a small sub set of parks, but the point remains. It also could be a pseudo lost leader of sorts; generating more leads for eventual homes sales instead of spending adverting dollars or provide enough work for justify paying for a more experienced/full time manager, who has knowledge, skills, and abilities to drive value on other areas of operations.
In short, the if the POH rental model was always bad, then ELS, SUN, and UMH wouldn't have rental companies, so don't discount it off the bat. See if they fit into your business plan.