Starting Out
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
![](http://bpimg.biggerpockets.com/assets/forums/sponsors/hospitable-deef083b895516ce26951b0ca48cf8f170861d742d4a4cb6cf5d19396b5eaac6.png)
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
![](http://bpimg.biggerpockets.com/assets/forums/sponsors/equity_trust-2bcce80d03411a9e99a3cbcf4201c034562e18a3fc6eecd3fd22ecd5350c3aa5.avif)
![](http://bpimg.biggerpockets.com/assets/forums/sponsors/equity_1031_exchange-96bbcda3f8ad2d724c0ac759709c7e295979badd52e428240d6eaad5c8eff385.avif)
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback
Updated about 5 years ago on . Most recent reply
Looking to Hit the Ground Running
Hi, all!
I recently joined Bigger Pockets back in December and I decided that I would genuinely start trying to get my foot in the door (and push the door open, while I'm at it) in real estate investing. My main goal is to buy/hold small multi-unit properties until I have enough capital to jump into larger multi families. However, I was and am severely lacking the funds to purchase properties, so I've been trying to land my first wholesale deal since Feb. 1st. I've been listening to podcasts for a while and I'm interested in using OPM to fund deals to circumvent the need to further explore wholesaling, but I'm not sure where to look for investors willing to work with complete newbies.
Are there any small multi family investors in the Kansas City area that could give pointers for me to start out strong? Lets get in contact!!
Most Popular Reply
![James Wise's profile image](https://bpimg.biggerpockets.com/no_overlay/uploads/social_user/user_avatar/146217/1631650391-avatar-jameswise.jpg?twic=v1/output=image/crop=375x375@553x61/cover=128x128&v=2)
- Real Estate Broker
- Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH
- 19,260
- Votes |
- 28,222
- Posts
Originally posted by @Deion McQuarters:
Hi, all!
I recently joined Bigger Pockets back in December and I decided that I would genuinely start trying to get my foot in the door (and push the door open, while I'm at it) in real estate investing. My main goal is to buy/hold small multi-unit properties until I have enough capital to jump into larger multi families. However, I was and am severely lacking the funds to purchase properties, so I've been trying to land my first wholesale deal since Feb. 1st. I've been listening to podcasts for a while and I'm interested in using OPM to fund deals to circumvent the need to further explore wholesaling, but I'm not sure where to look for investors willing to work with complete newbies.
Are there any small multi family investors in the Kansas City area that could give pointers for me to start out strong? Lets get in contact!!
Welcome aboard Deion. Not sure if you are local to KC or not but as you're looking at KC I figured I'd drop you a link to The Ultimate Guide to Grading Kansas City Missouri Neighborhoods. Also have similar guides for Cleveland, Ohio and Birmingham, Alabama.
In addition there are tons of other turnkey markets out there besides KC. Many of these markets are very well represented by sellers & turnkey operators here on BiggerPockets. In no particular order I have listed some of the most popular markets for out of state investors
- Cincinnati, Ohio
- Dayton, Ohio
- Toledo, Ohio
- Youngstown, Ohio
- Cincinnati, Ohio
- Memphis, Tennessee
- Saint Louis, Missouri
- Indianapolis, Indiana
- Detroit, Michigan
- Erie, Pennsylvania
- Louisville, Kentucky
- Milwaukee, Wisconsin
- Jackson, Mississippi
Each of these markets is popular with turnkey investors because of the low barrier to entry, high rental demand & high rent to price ratio. I recommend setting up keyword alerts for each area as they are discussed in the forums daily with advertisements posted in the BiggerPockets marketplace hourly.
One thing to note when looking at the individual markets, you can make or lose money in any market. Don't think that one particular out of state market will shoot you to success or abject failure. It's not really that complicated to buy out of state. It only becomes complicated when investors try to over complicate or over think everything. Whenever you are buying a property out of state you should do a few things to ensure it's as smooth as possible.
- Don't buy in the roughest neighborhood in the urban core. Pick a solid B-Class suburban area. Perhaps a nice 1950's built bungalow.
- Always hire a 3rd party property inspector to give you an unbiased feel for the home. The reports are 40-90 pages long and go through the entire house in great detail.
- Get an appraisal. If your using financing the bank requires this. This is good. The bank isn't going to let you blow their money. They have more skin in the game then you do.
- Make sure you get clear title. If using a lender this is a non issue. They will make you do this. It's those maniacs that buy homes cash via quit claim deed off of craigslist that really get screwed.
- Make sure your property manager is a licensed real estate brokerage.
- Google Clayton Morris and/or Morris Invest for a cautionary tale of what not to do when buying turnkey real estate
- Understand you can not eliminate all risk, only mitigate it. If you are risk averse, real estate, (especially out of state) is not for you.