Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Starting Out
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 5 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

21
Posts
33
Votes
Zapata Tate
  • Charlotte, NC
33
Votes |
21
Posts

New investor... First property

Zapata Tate
  • Charlotte, NC
Posted

Hello BP family. I'm working on my first deal, but I'm stuck. The owner is 78 years of age and is ready to get out (He has several properties). I'd like to try seller financing, but I'm not sure how to approach it. The property in question is occupied and has had the same tenants for years, but it needs some serious repairs. If I paid the seller's price and did nothing to the property, it would cash flow between $300 and $400. That's a minimum 20% ROI. I've heard of people walking away from the negotiation table with cash from seller financing deals... HOW? I've also looked at hard money. Should I have a realtor involved?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

13,365
Posts
19,402
Votes
Joe Villeneuve
#4 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
19,402
Votes |
13,365
Posts
Joe Villeneuve
#4 All Forums Contributor
  • Plymouth, MI
Replied

This could be what most REI look for as the Holy Grail of opportunities...a retiring REI selling multiple properties. He will have a whale of a tax situation if he sells them all at once...even over a short period of time. He probably is used to, and loves, the cash flow he's been getting...but doesn't want to be a landlord anymore. I'm guessing he has 100% equity on all, if not most of these properties.

Here's your play:
1 - Make your offer a little less than the AP.  This is to improve your CF
2 - Make the offer based on 10% down,  This improves your cost to buy.  Your cost is ONLY what comes out of your pocket...not what the total cost is.  This will also improve your CoCReturn since you'll have less cash to recover.
3 - The balance to be paid in the form of a lean/mortgage from the seller to you.
4 - Loan terms to be interest a little higher than a bank would give you, but your payments will be interest only for 7 years with a balloon at 7 years.  This gives the seller a continued CF, and with the added interest income, should make more money than if they sold the property for the Asking Price...and, his tax situation is controlled. This greatly improves your CF.  In 7 years you can either:
     A -  sell the property, or...
     B -  payoff the balloon note with traditional financing, or...
     C - see if the seller would like to extend the loan for another 7 years.
8 - If/when the seller likes this deal, you have the opportunity to do the same thing for the rest of his properties.  This is why I said in the beginning, this was the "Holy Grail of opportunities".

Loading replies...