Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Starting Out
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 5 years ago,

User Stats

73
Posts
50
Votes
Thomas J. Clifford
  • Gainesville, FL
50
Votes |
73
Posts

Is start-up capital proportional at market highs and lows

Thomas J. Clifford
  • Gainesville, FL
Posted

Newbie post here as I still tackle some of the basic learning concepts before buying my first investment property.

I have *some* money saved up (10K, which is not much at all in my market where 3/2's go for 140-190k). I'm looking to get started but at this time I don't have enough of a reasonable buffer that is recommended for first time buy and hold investors. I have been strongly considering a cash-out Refi of my home which would net about $50k of capital to work with. I've also been advised by an investor I consider a possible mentor to look into a HELOC to start making moves with.

My question is this: I feel like we're looking at being at the height of the market (Yeah, I know nobody has a crystal ball - but pricing in my area really just seems higher than it should be at). If I do a cash out refi - that locks me in at the property value at what *I* think might be at the height of the market, right? Does that put me in a tough spot when the market starts to correct itself, and my primary resd. starts to lose value compared to the refi I might take out on it? Is it better to refi when interest rates are higher, but values are less inflated? Does that even make sense, or am I not seeing this from the correct perspective?

What about the HELOC option? Does anyone have general advice or info on how a HELOC might be impacted when it is opened when the market is high, but mostly operates during the down turn? 
 
What options might you recommend (Short of straight cash) that fare best when the market *might* be at its peak before dropping? What were effective strategies that investors used in 07-08 that helped keep them insulated from the dropping market?

I HATE being the guy who asks for general answers while also being vague, but I'm more interested in the basic mechanics of how these options behave when they start in a high market and then operate in a falling one. I appreciate everyone's insight!

Thanks in advance!

T.