Two questions with a buy and hold strategy in mind

Two questions with a buy and hold strategy in mind

East Bay Area, CA · Member since 2019 · 38 posts · 11 votes

Like many others I'm new and trying to take in as much info as I can. I'm running my way through the BP podcasts (they are fantastic). One thing that seems is consistently ignored when evaluating a property for buy and hold is the equity. Example, you buy a property with a 0% cap rate. Sure there's no cashflow on a monthly basis, but at the end of year end, assuming appreciation is 0%, you've gained whatever the principle was for 12 months. Running some rough numbers, that can easily result in a 5-7% net return in equity on your investment. Yet, it seems people consider a 0% cap rate a bad deal.

Second question, which is related but sort of not, I'm through the first 15 or so episodes of the pod cast which sounds like it started in 2011/2012, and several of the guests reference getting into the game right after 2008 because the market was way undervalued. That's great for them to have that foresight. Now here we are in 2019. How are people, specifically buy-and-holders, feeling about this market? Are we going liquid in anticipation of another correction? Are folks still bull on housing? This is probably the big unknown keeping me from leaping into the market.

FWIW, i'm in Northern California, specifically the East Bay, and looking at the Concord/Martinez/Pleasant Hill markets as well as in the Tracy/Manteca/Lodi/Stockton area, but I live/own in Livermore.

-Mike

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  • Hollidaysburg, PA · Member since 2015 · 327 posts · 350 votes
    7y

    @Mike Huerta, If you're talking about a single family resident to a quadplex, I wouldn't even worry about cap rate. I also would never recommend to anyone to buy for appreciation, unless they are very familiar with their market. I personally buy for cash flow, make sure I have plenty of cash reserves, and seek long term debt, much like Joe Fairless suggests as well. Along with that, I look for deals that are not on the market. 

    If you buy right and are conservative with your numbers, it shouldn't matter what the market is doing. A deal is a deal if done correctly. I hope this helps and good luck!

  • East Bay Area, CA · Member since 2019 · 38 posts · 11 votes
    7y

    Thank you, Matt. I appreciate it. 

    If anyone reading this has a favorite thread on these two topics, I'd love to get a link. I enjoy reading on this. I'm searching my way around the forum, but there is an overwhelming amount of info to sift through. 

    Thanks again,

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